Yes...I saw this yesterday that Turkey will now allow US aircraft to strike ISIS from Turkey.
With Turkey itself getting more active and directly involved against ISIS...ISIS will lose more momentum and ground.
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With Turkey itself getting more active and directly involved against ISIS...ISIS will lose more momentum and ground.
Equation
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They don't have a choice on the matter as ISIS is like right next door to them.
I'm wondering if the Turkish intelligence will get more involve as well?They don't have a choice on the matter as ISIS is like right next door to them.
I guess stepping back from funneling weaponry and personnel to anyone opposing Assad would already do quiet something. Plus actively denying sanctuary and medical support would be another meassure.
Interestingly, that new military action goes hand in hand with aistrikes against PKK forces in northern Iraq. Now, obviously it was plain stupid by the PKK to murder the turkish police men in the current situation, were kurdish forces have gained international recognition as perhaps the only local, more or less coherent, force capable of taking on ISIS.
Yet, I somehow believe Turkey still does not see them as the main enemy. Weakening kurdish forces seems to be equally as important. That puts Turkey and the international players in an odd corner. The one strong state actor in the region (well perhaps besides Iran), that eventually takes action, is vastly at odds with the only other capable (non-state) actor that has taken up the fight.
In my mind there should / must be some kind of recognition / reward for what kurdish forces have done. Which goes at odds with the interests of Turkey, that is also important to keep happy here. (And to a lesser extent again Iran, maybe.)
Matters are vastly more complicated than reported on many places, for example in my own NRC ( ).
Commentaries by Ambassador Bhadrakumar (Obama's Faustian deal with Turkey's Erdogan, , July 26 ) and Simon Tisdall ( ) sketch a more complex situation including a non-fly zone that is not authorized by the Security Council.
From Tisdall's article:
The red area is the proposed no-fly zone
Green is Isis-controlled areas
Blue dots are Turkish bases now cleared for coalition use
Red dots are bases currently used by US-led coalition
P.S. I don't yet know how to copy pictures from The Guardian.
Commentaries by Ambassador Bhadrakumar (Obama's Faustian deal with Turkey's Erdogan, , July 26 ) and Simon Tisdall ( ) sketch a more complex situation including a non-fly zone that is not authorized by the Security Council.
From Tisdall's article:
The red area is the proposed no-fly zone
Green is Isis-controlled areas
Blue dots are Turkish bases now cleared for coalition use
Red dots are bases currently used by US-led coalition
So the Syrian air force is to be prevented from attacking terrorists in a part of its own country.
P.S. I don't yet know how to copy pictures from The Guardian.
Miragedriver
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Turkish Jets Strike Kurdish Targets in Northern Iraq
Turkish air force F-16 jet fighters attacked Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) targets in northern Iraq as a three-year ceasefire came to end, local media reported Sunday.
ANKARA (Sputnik) – The Turkish jets, scrambled from the Diyarbakir airbase, struck PKK positions in the area of Harkurk along the Iraqi-Turkish border, according to the MyNet web portal. Ankara is yet to confirm the strikes.
The airstrikes followed Saturday’s operations, reportedly involving 50 warplanes and striking up to 400 targets in northern Iraq.
On Friday, Turkey officially launched its two-front campaign against PKK in northern Iraq and the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria.
This week has seen a surge in violence in Turkey, which shares southern borders with war-torn Syria and Iraq, stretching 510 miles and 220 miles respectively.
The attacks included a suicide bombing in the Turkish border town of Suruc that killed 32 people and injured over 100, and the killings of two police officers in the southern city of Ceylanpinar.
The Suruc suicide bomber was reportedly affiliated with the ISIL, which had captured vast Syrian territories. PKK, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for the Ceylanpinar killings, saying it was in retaliation for the deadly attack in Suruc.
Turkey’s pro-Kurdish People’s Democratic Party (HDP), along with Iraqi Kurdistan Regional President Masoud Barzani, called on Ankara to stop its anti-PKK campaign on Saturday.
The political group, founded in 1978 to support self-determination for Turkish Kurds and designated by Turkey as a terrorist organization, declared an end to the ceasefire on Saturday.
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Turkish air force F-16 jet fighters attacked Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) targets in northern Iraq as a three-year ceasefire came to end, local media reported Sunday.
ANKARA (Sputnik) – The Turkish jets, scrambled from the Diyarbakir airbase, struck PKK positions in the area of Harkurk along the Iraqi-Turkish border, according to the MyNet web portal. Ankara is yet to confirm the strikes.
The airstrikes followed Saturday’s operations, reportedly involving 50 warplanes and striking up to 400 targets in northern Iraq.
On Friday, Turkey officially launched its two-front campaign against PKK in northern Iraq and the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria.
This week has seen a surge in violence in Turkey, which shares southern borders with war-torn Syria and Iraq, stretching 510 miles and 220 miles respectively.
The attacks included a suicide bombing in the Turkish border town of Suruc that killed 32 people and injured over 100, and the killings of two police officers in the southern city of Ceylanpinar.
The Suruc suicide bomber was reportedly affiliated with the ISIL, which had captured vast Syrian territories. PKK, meanwhile, claimed responsibility for the Ceylanpinar killings, saying it was in retaliation for the deadly attack in Suruc.
Turkey’s pro-Kurdish People’s Democratic Party (HDP), along with Iraqi Kurdistan Regional President Masoud Barzani, called on Ankara to stop its anti-PKK campaign on Saturday.
The political group, founded in 1978 to support self-determination for Turkish Kurds and designated by Turkey as a terrorist organization, declared an end to the ceasefire on Saturday.
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Miragedriver
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Turkish Prime Minister Rules Out Boots on Syrian Soil
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu ruled out on Sunday sending ground troops to fight the Islamic State military group in Syria, according to the Hurriyet newspaper.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — In an interview with Turkish media, Davutoglu commented on the agreement with Washington to provide air cover to what they consider to be moderate Syrian rebels, such as the Free Syrian Army and other forces that have the same goal of weeding out ISIL insurgency in the war-torn country.
He stressed that if Ankara was not going to send in ground forces, and it was not, then moderate rebels should at least be protected from above.
Turkey still wants to see Syrian leader Bashar Assad deposed, Davutoglu added. He also said that Kurdish separatists from the PKK party might have a "place in the new Syria" if they sever contacts with Assad.
On Friday, Turkey officially launched its two-front campaign against PKK in northern Iraq and the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria.
The air raids followed a week of violence in Turkey – which shares southern borders with Syria and Iraq – including a suicide bombing in the Turkish border town of that killed 32 people and injured over 100.
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Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu ruled out on Sunday sending ground troops to fight the Islamic State military group in Syria, according to the Hurriyet newspaper.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — In an interview with Turkish media, Davutoglu commented on the agreement with Washington to provide air cover to what they consider to be moderate Syrian rebels, such as the Free Syrian Army and other forces that have the same goal of weeding out ISIL insurgency in the war-torn country.
He stressed that if Ankara was not going to send in ground forces, and it was not, then moderate rebels should at least be protected from above.
Turkey still wants to see Syrian leader Bashar Assad deposed, Davutoglu added. He also said that Kurdish separatists from the PKK party might have a "place in the new Syria" if they sever contacts with Assad.
On Friday, Turkey officially launched its two-front campaign against PKK in northern Iraq and the Islamic State jihadist group in Syria.
The air raids followed a week of violence in Turkey – which shares southern borders with Syria and Iraq – including a suicide bombing in the Turkish border town of that killed 32 people and injured over 100.
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Miragedriver
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Saudi Arabia Military Ignores Restrictions on Use of U.S.-Made Cluster Bombs Maiming Civilians in Yemen
Sunday, July 19, 2015
The U.S. government authorized the sale of millions of dollars’ worth of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) with the provision that “cluster munitions will only be used against clearly defined military targets and will not be used where civilians are known to be present or in areas normally inhabited by civilians.” Yet Human Rights Watch (HRW) found that the munitions the Saudi military has used cluster bombs in civilian areas and wounded several people in at least one incident.
A Yemeni man described to HRW an attack using the weapons. “When people saw the parachutes they fled, leaving all their produce, cars and livestock. I went to find out what the parachutes had dropped. I do not know what it is, but I thought it was important to keep away from children who might play with it.”
The weapon is the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon manufactured by Texron Systems, of Wilmington, Massachusetts. Texron claims the bomb is designed to be used only on specific targets and will either pre-destruct or be rendered inert if it doesn’t hit what it was aimed at.
Perhaps Texron needs to go back to the drawing board. Not only have civilians been injured by the CBU-105, but unexploded components of the bombs have been found on the ground. There is concern that those looking to sell the bombs as scrap will be injured by them.
The Saudi military says they’re following U.S. guidelines on how the weapons are used. Democratic Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts has introduced legislation to limit the sales of cluster bombs. Although it has never moved forward, some of its language is used in the sales agreements with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Still, civilian casualties continue.
“You know, I’m for banning these weapons, and the best we’ve been able to do is to put some rules and regulations around their export and how they’re used, and clearly that’s not enough,” McGovern said, according to Public Radio International. “Do we just throw up our hands and say it’s too bad [the Saudis] didn't comply with U.S. law, and oh boy that’s just tough? Or do we actually make sure that our laws mean something? I think if a country violates the law, and uses these weapons in the way that the Saudis did, they ought not to get any more.”
There are 116 countries that are signatories to the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans such weapons. Not coincidentally, the United States, Saudi Arabia and the UAE aren’t among them.
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Sunday, July 19, 2015
The U.S. government authorized the sale of millions of dollars’ worth of cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) with the provision that “cluster munitions will only be used against clearly defined military targets and will not be used where civilians are known to be present or in areas normally inhabited by civilians.” Yet Human Rights Watch (HRW) found that the munitions the Saudi military has used cluster bombs in civilian areas and wounded several people in at least one incident.
A Yemeni man described to HRW an attack using the weapons. “When people saw the parachutes they fled, leaving all their produce, cars and livestock. I went to find out what the parachutes had dropped. I do not know what it is, but I thought it was important to keep away from children who might play with it.”
The weapon is the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon manufactured by Texron Systems, of Wilmington, Massachusetts. Texron claims the bomb is designed to be used only on specific targets and will either pre-destruct or be rendered inert if it doesn’t hit what it was aimed at.
Perhaps Texron needs to go back to the drawing board. Not only have civilians been injured by the CBU-105, but unexploded components of the bombs have been found on the ground. There is concern that those looking to sell the bombs as scrap will be injured by them.
The Saudi military says they’re following U.S. guidelines on how the weapons are used. Democratic Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts has introduced legislation to limit the sales of cluster bombs. Although it has never moved forward, some of its language is used in the sales agreements with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Still, civilian casualties continue.
“You know, I’m for banning these weapons, and the best we’ve been able to do is to put some rules and regulations around their export and how they’re used, and clearly that’s not enough,” McGovern said, according to Public Radio International. “Do we just throw up our hands and say it’s too bad [the Saudis] didn't comply with U.S. law, and oh boy that’s just tough? Or do we actually make sure that our laws mean something? I think if a country violates the law, and uses these weapons in the way that the Saudis did, they ought not to get any more.”
There are 116 countries that are signatories to the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans such weapons. Not coincidentally, the United States, Saudi Arabia and the UAE aren’t among them.
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Miragedriver
Brigadier
Egypt receives its first three Rafale fighter
(Defensa.com) Last Monday was held the ceremony, after the timely acceptance of the first three Dassault Aviation Rafale fighter for the Air Force of Egypt. The transfer of the equipment has been in the test center that the company inside Istres Air Base, south of France, and is one of the largest with which the Armée de l'Air account. Signing the delivery documentation he was chaired by the Ambassador of Egypt in France, Mr. Ehab Badawy, and CEO of Dassault Aviation, Eric TRAPPIER.
The French company has delivered the first three seater in a record time of only five months, since the Egyptians signed the contract for the purchase of a total of 24 Rafales (16 seater and 8 cars), which could indicate that it would advance apparatus for orders of Armée de l'Air. In any case we have the first copies of export This multirole fighter jet, also according to company sources, the bombers were delivered with full sovereignty, suggesting that the Arab country would have no political limitations for use. In parallel, a first group of Egyptian pilots were trained in France, most likely in the Air Base of Saint-Dizier, where the Armée de l'Air has the Rafale Escadron Transformation (ETR) 02 092 Aquitanie. A day after the ceremony, the devices have shuttle flight to Cairo.
The inauguration of the Suez Canal, scheduled for August 6, would have forced a shortening of deadlines so that the Government can dispose of Cairo that date, physically not operational, defense systems acquired France: the aforementioned fighter and FREMM frigate type, "Tahya Misr" (FFG 1001), she wore for the first time, the Egyptian flag on 23 June.
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(Defensa.com) Last Monday was held the ceremony, after the timely acceptance of the first three Dassault Aviation Rafale fighter for the Air Force of Egypt. The transfer of the equipment has been in the test center that the company inside Istres Air Base, south of France, and is one of the largest with which the Armée de l'Air account. Signing the delivery documentation he was chaired by the Ambassador of Egypt in France, Mr. Ehab Badawy, and CEO of Dassault Aviation, Eric TRAPPIER.
The French company has delivered the first three seater in a record time of only five months, since the Egyptians signed the contract for the purchase of a total of 24 Rafales (16 seater and 8 cars), which could indicate that it would advance apparatus for orders of Armée de l'Air. In any case we have the first copies of export This multirole fighter jet, also according to company sources, the bombers were delivered with full sovereignty, suggesting that the Arab country would have no political limitations for use. In parallel, a first group of Egyptian pilots were trained in France, most likely in the Air Base of Saint-Dizier, where the Armée de l'Air has the Rafale Escadron Transformation (ETR) 02 092 Aquitanie. A day after the ceremony, the devices have shuttle flight to Cairo.
The inauguration of the Suez Canal, scheduled for August 6, would have forced a shortening of deadlines so that the Government can dispose of Cairo that date, physically not operational, defense systems acquired France: the aforementioned fighter and FREMM frigate type, "Tahya Misr" (FFG 1001), she wore for the first time, the Egyptian flag on 23 June.
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I'm listening to the BBC Radio 4 World at One news program where it was just said that in the NATO gathering today Turkey said that fighting terrorism was most important and that IS is a state. So as far as Turkey is concerned IS is not really important, this is about fighting the Kurds, the allies of US against IS.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I have gone over the operation of the the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon in a post before and will do so again. The the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon is intended as a single shot brigade destroyer when used properly its intended for use against mechanized forces and by its operations is not suited to attacking anything but.
When the CBU-105 Sensor Fuzed Weapon is dropped it starts striping the first strip breaks away the cargo container shell inside of that are the sub assemblies they break away. These assemblies are heat seakers they note heat signitures and program the sub munitions. The sub munitions then swing out and deploy from the assembly. The sub munitions often dubed skeet or pucks because they resembles such. Using rockets they spin about looking for targets using heat and laser guidance. When they find a target like a tank engine they fire, exploding in mid air forming a solid copper penetrator designed to punch through a engine compartment and kill a enemy tank or vehicle. This is not the classic cluster munitions model.
If the skeet did not find a target it is supposed to explode in air preventing the classic risk of cluster bombs, residual effects after attack.
How or what is happening I cannot comment about but I can comment on Jim McGovern... His office is right next door... Classic political animal and plays for the left of the left of which I am trapped inside...
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