Performance of Chinese exported weapons in current/recent conflicts

PL-5 is indeed not the latest air to air missile.

The LTTE after losing their plane to Sri Lanka Airforce, modify their exhaust of the engine with reduced heat signature and they deploy chaff resulting the missile failed to lock on. Nothing to do with defective and shabby missile.

In fact, Sri Lanka able to defeat the rebel and big credit given to Chinese made weapon from rifle, artillery, armour vehicle to tanks being supply abundantly by the Chinese.

Without these heavy weapon, they will not have the edge over the rebels.

zaky said:

Here is a recently busted Type-59 in Pakistan.

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Tanks are a tool of warfare, not some precious object that needs to be away from fighting! PLA, PA and other armies expect damage and distruction. Wars is not predictable.

The tank has a modern turret, but chassis is largely Type 59, only the front and bottom has newer armor on it. Thus it is not a true reflection of Chinese weapon proformance.

well considering nato tanks and APC's get blown up all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan, this isn't a surprise. The damage doesn't look so bad that it can't be repaired.

Could it have been a road-side bomb instead of an RPG? I'm looking at where the tank is sitting and visibility of surrounding areas.

Londo Molari said:

well considering nato tanks and APC's get blown up all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan, this isn't a surprise. The damage doesn't look so bad that it can't be repaired.

Could it have been a road-side bomb instead of an RPG? I'm looking at where the tank is sitting and visibility of surrounding areas.

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The wheels are broken.. Probably it was a roadside bomb.. I think...

Where is the tank sitting? Of course on the land. :roll:

Delbert said:

Where is the tank sitting? Of course on the land. :roll:

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Yes. What else do you see? Do you see thick tall bush on all sides? The tank is also on a road. I'm thinking it would be difficult to fire an RPG at the tank unless the attacker was directly ahead or behind the tank on the road itself, which seems unlikely.

about Chinese exported weapons performance, feedback from users are usually or most of the time satisfied with the performance of Chinese produced rifles, both military and civilian. Canadian and American civilian small arms owners seem to be satisfied with Chinese produced rifles, whether clone or not.

PL-5? Are you sure it was the E model? Do you have anymore info on that?
Did it actually lock on but was fooled by chaff, or was it that missile simply never even locked on?

HKSDU said:

about Chinese exported weapons performance, feedback from users are usually or most of the time satisfied with the performance of Chinese produced rifles, both military and civilian. Canadian and American civilian small arms owners seem to be satisfied with Chinese produced rifles, whether clone or not.

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Well, according to some stuff i have seen lately or in the last couple of years. In term of small arms such as standard assult rifles are fine, I know that some neighboring asian countries have their special forces equipped with the qbz-95 are quite satifised with it, the feedback was basically that " these rifles are made perfectly for the size of our men".

Was that from Cambodia? Only Cambodia has bought Type 97s if I remember right.
Bangladesh is itself license producing the Type 81 locally.
Only bad stories I have heard are from Thailand, mainly with its old frigates and Type 69s which China itself doesn't like. And of course, Thailand is satisfied with its later purchases.

sumdud said:

PL-5? Are you sure it was the E model? Do you have anymore info on that?
Did it actually lock on but was fooled by chaff, or was it that missile simply never even locked on?

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From what I could gather it indeed failed to lock on. Some local sources I got; stated that the small RADAR in the J-7G variant (F-7GS?) didn't have a problem detecting but on at least 2 occasions the IR missile simply failed to lock-on. The lock-on failure said to jolted/spooked the SLAF.

Maybe it was not the PL-5E/E2.... maybe it was an older version of the PL-5.

But there were unofficial reports that the planes the SLAF got had KLJ-6E and PL-5E..

Officially the SLAF chief said that there was enough early-warning to get the F-7s in the air and detect the LTTE planes, but were unable shoot them down due "Technical reasons" ......:coffee: