Olympics 2024 - discussion thread

getready

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Wang Chuqin just lost to world ranked 26 Truls Moregard of Sweden and is now knocked out of the Men's Singles Table-Tennis for those who missed it. Possibly the biggest upset in ping-pong history? #1 knocked out by #26.... Even the paddle incident can't really account for this bad of a performance from Wang.
Truly Moregardh isn’t the useless player people are making him out to be. He is very talented and unpredictable. His rankings does not really reflect his true ability, he can be erratic but no doubt of his talent. the male Swedes do have a glorious tradition in TT.

All in all though Wang chuqin should have won, he made a lot of errors but at least he is man enough to dismiss the racquet excuse. Olympics is highest level in table tennis. It’s cut throat competition. Sometimes there are crazy upsets. I reckon we will see one in badminton and tennis too.

Why did Xu Jiayu
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in the 200m backstroke heat? He won Silver in the 100m backstroke.
Never been his strong event. Xu will be in a lot of relays as he is the only world class backstroker China have. Needs to save energy.

Gold medal for China's Deng Yawen women's bmx freestyle
nice. Dun know anything about this sports, didn’t even know China is a gold contender.

Just checked, she beat US and Aus to the gold lol. Wished I watched it live on Aus tv. the tears and hate from usually biased Aussie tv commentators will be so enjoyable.
 
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Knight Kien

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Congrats to Deng Yawen. When I saw her did that back flip with no hands, I knew she was gonna win. I also thought Sun Jiaqi had the best moves, but she was a bit too reckless. If she had stick the landing, China would have won both gold and silver.
 

Lethe

Captain
There are certainly legitimate asthmatic issues related to swimming.

But how do you ensure this isn't abused? People have been shown to take massive risks with all kinds of doping, but some small simulation during a spirometry test with zero risk involved is nearly unthinkable?

It wouldn't be hard to convince yourself that you are indeed asthmatic and then you can rationalize any simulation as helping the physician making the correct diagnosis in case your asthmatic symptoms might be too light during the examination.

The assertion is that Beta-2 agonists and corticosteroids do not enhance performance for non-asthmatic persons, so it doesn't actually matter whether someone "fakes" a spirometry test or not (how easy that is to do in a convincing manner I could not say). To judge the strength of that assertion would require extensive research but, in addition to the studies linked in the article, a cursory search turns up more recent studies that reach the same conclusion, such as
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2021 meta-analysis.

Intuitively this would seem to make sense. Beta-2 agonists cause the smooth muscles lining the airways, which in persons with asthma are prone to constriction in response to various stimuli, to relax, returning to (or closer to) their baseline state of relaxation. For persons without asthma, whose airways are not prone to this constriction in the first place, there would appear to be no benefit.

If there are one or two athletes who are asthmatic then it is an inspirational story. But when the whole friggin team is asthmatic then don’t blame us for being skeptical

This seems to be a multi-headed monster:

1. Persons with asthma are encouraged to become swimmers.
2. Swimmers are prone to developing asthma in proportion to the intensity of their training.
3. That WADA regulates the use of Beta-2 agonists as potentially performance-enhancing substances creates a perverse incentive for non-asthmatic swimmers to seek therapeutic exemptions for such in the belief that such substances may improve performance.
 
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sndef888

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Biles also needs some focus drugs under the guise of diagnosed ADHD or something. Without them, she just fucks off right in the middle of the competition like in Japan. Nobody should have any exemption drugs in competition; if you can't do it with what you naturally have, you can't compete with it.

I wonder if China can pull the same shit. Find kids with super mild asthma they can dope up.

Are there no drug test limits on time and amount? It's fairly clear that excessive testing at odd hours is just meant to sabotage athlete's rest. There may not have been such a thing before but I think there will be something implemented afterwards from heavy protests and common sense.
Legalised cheating.

This is what the West is best at. Working with USADA to find loopholes for their own athletes and covering it up with their media while attacking other countries with fake doping claims
 
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