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Your point is not amplified or substantiated by making derogatory remarks about a person or group of person who just doesn't share your point of view.The truth is that what you Yellow Ribbon fascists demands is not really universal suffrage, it's a fundamentalist concept of "universal suffrage" which has no working model then and now anywhere in the world.
Universal suffrage is a not a fundamentalist concept as you would like to paint it but is the fundamental principle to have choices - period. The problem in HK is not in the concept but those in power on how they wish to interpret the meaning and those opposing a particular view of that meaning.
It's either free election of no free election in the real world, and even in the West, free election comes with their respective sets of screening and guidelines, like in the US no US-born citizens can run for President.
Those screening and guidelines are instituted there for practical reasons and can be changed any time by the electorate. They have choices. As to the eligibility to run for President, I think you mean non US born rather than no US born citizen. As I understand the system, that criteria can be changed if there is sufficient motion for it. That falls within the preview of choices.