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sahureka

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Those "Su-25" are likely L-39 jet trainer.
From this satellite image it is difficult to ascertain what type of aircraft it is.
At the moment no photo of L-39 with North Korean insignia has ever been seen, nor of the previous L-29.
So in theory it could also be a new North Korean training plane (we talked about it on page 84)
#833 - #834
Or a simplified version of the SU-25.
 

yugocrosrb95

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From this satellite image it is difficult to ascertain what type of aircraft it is.
At the moment no photo of L-39 with North Korean insignia has ever been seen, nor of the previous L-29.
So in theory it could also be a new North Korean training plane (we talked about it on page 84)
#833 - #834
Or a simplified version of the SU-25.
That is certainly L-39 jet trainer and as such it has no historical significance unlike for example two seat variants of MiG-15 along Yak-18/CJ-5.
 

sahureka

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That is certainly L-39 jet trainer and as such it has no historical significance unlike for example two seat variants of MiG-15 along Yak-18/CJ-5.
it will be L-39 when we manage to have a very defined satellite image in which to recognize it, or when Kim Jong Un decides to take a photo where an L-39 with Nord-Korean colors is visible.
Until that moment it remains a hypothesis.
Or your certainty that they are L-39 is dictated by the fact that you have those images available ?
 

yugocrosrb95

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it will be L-39 when we manage to have a very defined satellite image in which to recognize it, or when Kim Jong Un decides to take a photo where an L-39 with Nord-Korean colors is visible.
Until that moment it remains a hypothesis.
Or your certainty that they are L-39 is dictated by the fact that you have those images available ?
I am not interested in your mental gymnastics where you deny inconvenient facts such as very image you provided that proves it is L-39.
Another is that for example we know there were Su-7 in service from satellite imagery along old documentary where rear of it was shown.
You without basis are asserting that North Korea has made domestic Su-25 in simplified form as if aircraft itself wasn't simple enough as it is.

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L-39
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L-29
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Both have angled wings on either side, more so at the rear.

Su-25
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Su-25 in comparison rear has no angle unlike front that is more heavily angled.
L-29 and L-39 front is barely angled compared to rear which on Su-25 has no sweep.​

If they did we would have known and would have been shown as it was done with domestic production of An-2 along Cessna clones.




 

sahureka

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I am not interested in your mental gymnastics where you deny inconvenient facts such as very image you provided that proves it is L-39.
Another is that for example we know there were Su-7 in service from satellite imagery along old documentary where rear of it was shown.
You without basis are asserting that North Korea has made domestic Su-25 in simplified form as if aircraft itself wasn't simple enough as it is.

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L-39
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L-29
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Both have angled wings on either side, more so at the rear.

Su-25
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Su-25 in comparison rear has no angle unlike front that is more heavily angled.
L-29 and L-39 front is barely angled compared to rear which on Su-25 has no sweep.​

If they did we would have known and would have been shown as it was done with domestic production of An-2 along Cessna clones.




1) everyone has their own mental gymnastics, I have mine and you have yours.
2) You identify that it is an L-39, well that's your thought and honestly I'm a little envious of your ability to identify without a shadow of a doubt an L-39 from that very poor quality image;
On the contrary, at the moment I only see a form of aircraft that I cannot identify, which in addition to the hypotheses already listed could for example be this drone
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or even a remote-controlled model airplane
3) Furthermore, I never said that North Korea produced the domestic Su-25 in a simplified form, but I wrote something very different and I invite you to go and reread what I wrote on page 81 #808

Request:
Could it be possible that the DPRK has some L-39s?
my answer:
Yes, as he purchased the Mig-21bis, Krivak, Golf, Foxtrot, he may have also come into possession of some L-29 and L-39, but to conclude, at the moment no photo shows L-29 or L-39 with the colors of the DPRK.

PS
However, given my "mental gymnastics", I consider it superfluous to continue discussing.
In my country there is a proverb that says:
"if they are flowers they will bloom",
in the sense that if North Korea is really building some type of military aircraft, we will only have confirmation when they present it or leak some images and only then will we know which model it is.
At the moment, for those of us curious about North Korean things, all that remains is to speculate on some fragments of news
 

yugocrosrb95

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So in the end you have no argument and write a whole lot of nothing compared to me that provides actual argument.
You are doing mental gymnastics and has made decision to do some more, labeling me who actually provides it as doing it is outright lie.
As is your denial of what you have asserted in post that you posted: "...as well as a simplified North Korean variant of the SU-25."
 

sahureka

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So in the end you have no argument and write a whole lot of nothing compared to me that provides actual argument.
You are doing mental gymnastics and has made decision to do some more, labeling me who actually provides it as doing it is outright lie.
As is your denial of what you have asserted in post that you posted: "...as well as a simplified North Korean variant of the SU-25."
Now I intend to answer you using the same method as yours, but in doing so I would risk transforming the discussion into a long and useless diatribe between two users which would ultimately lead to nothing.
You remain with your certainties, I remain with my doubts and hypotheses.
Therefore this response of mine will be the last to mention yours, also out of respect for all the other users who probably prefer to read news or hypotheses relating to North Korean weapons systems rather than discussions regarding two users in disagreement who then go further into use of words to address the ideas of others.
Ciao....Have a nice weekend.
 
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