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FORBIN

Lieutenant General
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South Korean is a US satellite. The US president was commander in chief of the South Korean army until 2015 and is to resume that function in case of war. So for many reasons your proposal would not be acceptable to China.
Firstly agree ofc and never in histrory a country is allies with 2 big power, make sense.

Satellite is an expression especialy for Warsaw Pact countries completely dominated by USSR in additions no free contries, unique political party no élections !!! SK is a free country with election and if she want US left no problem.
In more USA Have intervened in 06/1950 according to a resolution of the United Nations againt North Korea.

We must not confuse the Gentiles and the wicked...
 

delft

Brigadier
Firstly agree ofc and never in histrory a country is allies with 2 big power, make sense.

Satellite is an expression especialy for Warsaw Pact countries completely dominated by USSR in additions no free contries, unique political party no élections !!! SK is a free country with election and if she want US left no problem.
In more USA Have intervened in 06/1950 according to a resolution of the United Nations againt North Korea.

We must not confuse the Gentiles and the wicked...
The Netherlands have elections but when its parliament voted a motion to have US nuclear weapons expelled, and with a big majority, it didn't happen. So the Netherlands is a satellite of US. The influence of US in SK is much larger and its politics are much more corrupt.
In 1950 US went in to rescue the dictator they had installed in 1945, and it was a very bloody dictator. The North Koreans nearly occupied the whole of SK while they were very lightly armed because of the support from the SK population.
In 1950 nearly all countries in UN were Western countries so US had a natural majority.
 

Gloire_bb

Captain
Registered Member
The North Koreans nearly occupied the whole of SK while they were very lightly armed because of the support from the SK population.
Not exactly lightly. North Korean army was modelled after Soviet one, and had significant mechanization, as well as rather modern armament.
With significant transfer of actual personel(Korean nationals, which served in SA), most of whom passed through ww2.
Obviously, problems were many(basically, NK army was hardly prepared for a fight - very unequal level of training even in first line regiments, for example; "second line" probably wasn't that much better than yoir average southern opponents), but compared to opponents... at first these barely understood what force they even deal with.

It can sound laughable today, but prewar SK did actually launch many transborder raids - Lee Soo Man actually thought he could easily win, or at least war will play out to his favor. Well, it did indeed :cool: but hardly the way he imagined.

You can say, size for size it was probably the most capable in Asia, except for Soviet one; definitely better supplied than postwar PLA (right out of civil war). It's worthwhile to remember, what even if earliest crushing victories were against Korea, Pusan perimeter was established against US(sry, UN) forces. And before Incheon they did relatively well, even under UN air.
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
The Netherlands have elections but when its parliament voted a motion to have US nuclear weapons expelled, and with a big majority, it didn't happen. So the Netherlands is a satellite of US. The influence of US in SK is much larger and its politics are much more corrupt.
In 1950 US went in to rescue the dictator they had installed in 1945, and it was a very bloody dictator. The North Koreans nearly occupied the whole of SK while they were very lightly armed because of the support from the SK population.
In 1950 nearly all countries in UN were Western countries so US had a natural majority.

Enormous ! thinking you a more neutral member but in fact confirm a bit what i have see especialy in ISIS topic... your free but we are completely not at all on the same wavelength a bit surprising for a NATO people all are not , i see...

But sure for semantic you get wrong using the name satellite it is not the good word...

For this matter i stop with you useless...in more it is politic you have begin but OT no military and i am not here for that.

The North Koreans nearly occupied the whole of SK while they were very lightly armed because of the support from the SK population.
No NK had even an Armored Division the 105th...
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Not exactly lightly. North Korean army was modelled after Soviet one, and had significant mechanization, as well as rather modern armament.
With significant transfer of actual personel(Korean nationals, which served in SA), most of whom passed through ww2.
Obviously, problems were many(basically, NK army was hardly prepared for a fight - very unequal level of training even in first line regiments, for example; "second line" probably wasn't that much better than yoir average southern opponents), but compared to opponents... at first these barely understood what force they even deal with.

Your aware as i have mentionned especialy the 105th Armored Division with T-34/85 in more 3 Arm. Bat arrive in Rtfs in 08/50 they also had SU family

Total : 06/50 22000 pers, 150 tanks, 1700 guns 8+ Div in the front + 3 inn reserves with independent Br, Rgts i have all in my notes fast for find.
AF : 68 Il-10 + 40 Yak-9

SK : 115000 pers, 700 guns, no tanks only 27 M-8 a difference ...
AF no combattants

Each of the 8 US/UK-CW Div had a Armored Bat with about 50 tanks : M-47, perhing, Centurion he do very good job.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
At the start of the Korean war, The US who had been overseeing reconstruction of the ROK had armed the ROK forces like a police force. Jeeps, rifles, a few obsolete heavier weapons but no armor or real artillery to speak of. The North had been given armor and aircraft by the Soviet union, but only there front line forces. Still in theory enough except the North Koreans advance over stretched the supply lines and the advance slowed to a crawl with just one port city left Pusan. This port though allowed the US and U.N. to resupply reinforce and push back especially when combined with amphibious assault landings farther North at Inchon cutting off the KPA advance. To a degree this resembles what happened when the Chinese joined the war. The UN pushed north to the edge of China, overstretched its supply lines then Winter hit and the Chinese joined the action and began attacking. The UN forces cut off faced a war of attrition and were forced into a fighting retreat. that drag the war back to the 38th and stalemate.
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
At the start of the Korean war, The US who had been overseeing reconstruction of the ROK had armed the ROK forces like a police force. Jeeps, rifles, a few obsolete heavier weapons but no armor or real artillery to speak of. The North had been given armor and aircraft by the Soviet union, but only there front line forces. Still in theory enough except the North Koreans advance over stretched the supply lines and the advance slowed to a crawl with just one port city left Pusan. This port though allowed the US and U.N. to resupply reinforce and push back especially when combined with amphibious assault landings farther North at Inchon cutting off the KPA advance. To a degree this resembles what happened when the Chinese joined the war. The UN pushed north to the edge of China, overstretched its supply lines then Winter hit and the Chinese joined the action and began attacking. The UN forces cut off faced a war of attrition and were forced into a fighting retreat. that drag the war back to the 38th and stalemate.

Yes in more i let's you Imagined road infrastructures : road, railways few few and few capable for move military units, in 1950 in Korea they have almost arches and arrows :), and almost all Chinese supply transported by foot carriers people... ! as North Vietnamese in 1950's, only 2 main railways but North - South so ports very important and US CV moving around the country are usefull to the peak 4 CV/CVE in duty with about 200 - 250 aircrafts
UN AF have 1000 - 1300 combattants whose 150 B-29
USSR provide Mig-15 from 12/50 better than F-86 but US pilots better, 60, 2 Rgts to China and 270 Soviet in 9 Rgts based in Mandchuria

I am a wargamer i know theory and practice ofc they are not perfect exact the reality
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TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
I have said it before I will say it again.... DO NOT VACATION IN NORTH KOREA!!
just opening yourself for becoming a hostage.
North Korea detains US citizen, the 3rd American being held there
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April 23, 2017
PYONGYANG, North Korea — North Korea has detained a U.S. citizen, officials said Sunday, bringing to three the number of Americans now being held there.

Tony Kim, who also goes by his Korean name Kim Sang-duk, was detained on Saturday, according to Park Chan-mo, the chancellor of the Pyongyang University of Science and Technology.

Park said Kim, who is in his 50s, taught accounting at the university for about a month. He said Kim was detained by officials as he was trying to leave the country from Pyongyang's international airport.

The Swedish Embassy in Pyongyang said it was aware of a Korean-American citizen being detained recently, but could not comment further.

The embassy looks after consular affairs for the United States in North Korea because the two countries do not have diplomatic relations.


Park said Kim had taught at the Yanbian University of Science and Technology in China before coming to Pyongyang. He said he was informed that the detention had "nothing to do" with Kim's work at the university but did not know further details.

As of Sunday night, North Korea's official media had not reported on the detention.

Though no details on why Kim was detained have been released, the detention comes at a time of unusually heightened tensions between the U.S. and North Korea. Both countries have recently been trading threats of war and having another American in jail will likely up the ante even further.


Last year, Otto Warmbier, then a 21-year-old University of Virginia student from suburban Cincinnati, was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor in prison after he confessed to trying to steal a propaganda banner.

Kim Dong Chul, who was born in South Korea but is also believed to have U.S. citizenship, is serving a sentence of 10 years for espionage.

Another foreigner, a Canadian pastor, is also being detained in North Korea. Hyeon Soo Lim, a South Korean-born Canadian citizen in his 60s, was convicted and sentenced to life in prison in 2015 on charges of trying to use religion to destroy the North Korean system and helping U.S. and South Korean authorities lure and abduct North Korean citizens.
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