Well something has always trouble me for quite a bit of time. In the news lately, you can see that the US arm forces use night vision equipment to take advantage of gunfights. How would a modern INFANTRY MAN deal with all this night vision technology given it would be hard to move around at night.
Night Fight, how do infantry fight in High Tech Era
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China uses them in advance SPU levels for searching rooms before entering for any enemy threats or hostages. In very small numbers only.Stay 5000 meter away or use cover. Detection is one thing, how long it takes to recognize you as hostile is your opening.
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Well night vision is useless in the bright areas and can mess with people's optics if they get sudden flashs of light. So maybe as a counter carry lots of flash grenades or shoot mortar-ish rounds that light up an entire area or something that will totally blind them.
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When using thermal sites flash bangs and lights do nothing. That's just for IR lights sites like PVS-7. Anyway, New sites are coming on line that no country has but U.S. Its a form of side aperture microwave/wave millimeter radar....see through walls and so forth. Just talk coming out of Army units.
On top of that the newer Generation Thermal sites are just beautiful and again no one has but the U.S. "ATFLIR" and ATFLIRmk2. Not sure what is open source from what I here so not going deep on ranges and resolution slaved to optics and weapon systems...sorry..***there is stuff that was fast tracked in 2005 that will blow your mind***.
Poor bloody infantry if you don't have HI Tech. With all the none open source UAV, UCAV, human interfaced robots....see ok site with more info on this.
I think the day of human interfaced machines and suicide ucavs is dawning.
On top of that the newer Generation Thermal sites are just beautiful and again no one has but the U.S. "ATFLIR" and ATFLIRmk2. Not sure what is open source from what I here so not going deep on ranges and resolution slaved to optics and weapon systems...sorry..***there is stuff that was fast tracked in 2005 that will blow your mind***.
Poor bloody infantry if you don't have HI Tech. With all the none open source UAV, UCAV, human interfaced robots....see ok site with more info on this.
I think the day of human interfaced machines and suicide ucavs is dawning.
The above site also has a really cool M-4 carbine mounted thermal optic(this is a small scope sized system). These systems are causing havoc with the OPFOR on the war on Terror. This shows a rifle with a thermal site at 50 meters with a target in the cross hair. Not a good day for this guy if he were ole Terry.
I think newer image intensifiers have the ability to decrease the level of "brightening" the picture if a bright flash occures, thus not blinding the operator.
However, real IR sights, wich now deliver high res images in total darkness without any light source seem to be the future now.
However, real IR sights, wich now deliver high res images in total darkness without any light source seem to be the future now.
OK, again, bright light does not affect thermal just intense heat. the new tech you are talking about is turning a human who's temp is 98.7 will become a total different color on the optic thus marking and tracking humans. this is going beyond white and black hot and ////dont know how open source this is.
SCRATCH, I think you are confused with image intensifiers and thermal optics. Image intensifiers use ambient light and the moon and direct IR lamps. Thermal is based on total heat. two complete different systems and operations.
The next stuff is side aperture microwave/wave millimeter radar that also incorporates other sensors IE thermal and ambient to create the ultimate Optic...TOTAL NON-OPEN SOURCE
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Maybe there's a misunderstanding between the two of us, because I think I didn't say anything contrary to your explanation.
I'm aware that image intensifiers "use" the very little "visible" light and also near IR (?), not heat radiation, and intensify/ brighten it up, up to several thousand times, to let the human eye see again in the (nearly) dark.
However, if one directs a flashlight at your II, and that light is still intensified, you are blinded and the optics may suffer damage. Now, I think modern II can adjust to that and stop intensifying bright light further, in order to not blind the operator.
This is what I wanted to say. I understand that said flashlight does not affect thermal visions.
Wich is also why I said for future applications it seems more promising than II, plus thermals give also advantages at day.
Side mounted MMW radar is interesting stuff for sure, if it can be made small enough to function reliably for a single soldier.
Some time ago I've read about microphoes mounted on HMMWVs to detect the direction of snipers by the bang of the rifle.
How about mounting such things on a helmet/ vest for situational awareness. Can you comment somewhat on that?
I'm aware that image intensifiers "use" the very little "visible" light and also near IR (?), not heat radiation, and intensify/ brighten it up, up to several thousand times, to let the human eye see again in the (nearly) dark.
However, if one directs a flashlight at your II, and that light is still intensified, you are blinded and the optics may suffer damage. Now, I think modern II can adjust to that and stop intensifying bright light further, in order to not blind the operator.
This is what I wanted to say. I understand that said flashlight does not affect thermal visions.
Wich is also why I said for future applications it seems more promising than II, plus thermals give also advantages at day.
Side mounted MMW radar is interesting stuff for sure, if it can be made small enough to function reliably for a single soldier.
Some time ago I've read about microphoes mounted on HMMWVs to detect the direction of snipers by the bang of the rifle.
How about mounting such things on a helmet/ vest for situational awareness. Can you comment somewhat on that?