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ansy1968

Brigadier
Registered Member
hi machupicu, another article about ZTE 7nm based station chips From cnTechPost.

ZTE should learn their lesson from their previous experience with the US govt, they need to go IDM route like Huawei and produce their own chips.

From cnTechPost

ZTE says it has commercialized 7nm on 5G base station chips, 4,000 employees working on operating system
2020-10-11 11:31:36 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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ZTE says it has commercialized 7nm on 5G base station chips, 4,000 employees working on operating system-cnTechPost

On the main control chip of 5G wireless base stations and switches, the 7-nanometer chip developed by ZTE has been commercially available, and the 5-nanometer chip is still in the experimental stage, the company executive said on October 11.

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quoted Li Hui, ZTE vice president, as saying that ZTE has invested heavily in research and development, with nearly 4,000 people in Chengdu working on its own operating system.

At the 3rd Digital China Summit on October 11, ZTE showcased its core technology capabilities and latest achievements around three major segments: independent intellectual property rights, 5G+ new infrastructure, and smart cities.
According to Li Hui, ZTE's products displayed this time are all based on independent innovation and completely localized, according to Tencent News.



"Many people didn't understand ZTE's independent innovation and development in chips and operating systems before, and we used to use them ourselves. We actually invested a lot of people in R&D. For example, there are nearly 4,000 people in Chengdu developing our own operating system."
Li Hui further said that the process of information technology construction is inherently a domestic process, buying foreign equipment in the past, and then gradually replacing it with domestic and completing self-development in the core communication chips.

At present, ZTE reached 2651 pieces on 5G core patents, accounting for 12% of the world's 5G core patents, Huawei currently accounts for 18%.
In the face of the current public perception of 5G is not strong, Li Hui also said that the characteristics of 5G in high bandwidth, low latency, low power consumption is actually the first to change the industry, through 5G to empower the industry, the public can gradually perceive.


"We believe that this stage should be divided into three stages: introductory, experimental and deepening. 5G application development must be combined with the scene. For example, the digital construction of the subway, banks, etc., so as to generate solutions to the problems of the public's life and work."
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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No he's just being realistic. Only TSMC and Samsung can currently fab in 7nm at this moment so it is quite obvious the chip isn't being manufactured in China even if ZTE designed it in China. ZTE has already been sanctioned before and since back then they had even less in house content than Huawei they were in even deeper shit. They had to pay billions to bribe US to lift sanctions. Now they are designing their own chips and software so congratulations, they are at the point Huawei was before their sanctions. Today Huawei has developed HarmonyOS and developed a smartphone SoC they could fab at SMIC in China at 14nm tech. Problem is SMIC got sanctioned too.
 

Anlsvrthng

Captain
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No he's just being realistic. Only TSMC and Samsung can currently fab in 7nm at this moment so it is quite obvious the chip isn't being manufactured in China even if ZTE designed it in China. ZTE has already been sanctioned before and since back then they had even less in house content than Huawei they were in even deeper shit. Now they are designing their own products and software so congratulations, they are at the point Huawei was before their sanctions. Today Huawei has developed HarmonyOS and developed a smartphone SoC they could fab at SMIC in China at 14nm tech. Problem is SMIC got sanctioned too.
As I remember the under 45nm ICs needs to be designed for specific fab, those are not universal any more.
 

daifo

Captain
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Wouldn't it make sense if Chinese companies start "spinning" off parts of their operation that can be sanction until China can be self sufficient?
 

horse

Colonel
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Wouldn't it make sense if Chinese companies start "spinning" off parts of their operation that can be sanction until China can be self sufficient?
Stability is important in business. Too many changes makes it look like the operations are trying to merely survive. Hauwei, SMIC, no where close to that.

They got the cash, they got the time.

What they face is urgent, but not my-survival-depends-on-it-urgent.

Only the Americans authorities would insist it is because they are clueless.

:oops:

That is the great mystery here.

What are the Americans suppose to get out of this???

:p
 

machupicu

Junior Member
Registered Member
Stability is important in business. Too many changes makes it look like the operations are trying to merely survive. Hauwei, SMIC, no where close to that.

They got the cash, they got the time.

What they face is urgent, but not my-survival-depends-on-it-urgent.

Only the Americans authorities would insist it is because they are clueless.

:oops:

That is the great mystery here.

What are the Americans suppose to get out of this???

:p
But maybe Huawei's Ren was too humble to say: that Huawei is at its survival mode,, rather he/Huawei shd hv made a statement that while the sanctions will create roadblocks but things will keep going.. and not say its a matter of life n death..the pic of the airplane being shot at is good, but you need to say right things, too.. he knew that stockpiles were adequate n various solutions such as upcoming 28nm fab.. he was too cautious though. The American ppl wouldn't understand that.
 

Red Moon

Junior Member
Speaking about blocking, once in Hacker New I read a comment that says that the most effective way for banning is not blocking IP/username because they'll just create new accounts or use VPN. Instead, the webmaster simply randomly drop the connections or disconnect them. The targets simply losing interest swiftly and just voluntary begone.
Lol, wasn't Tidalwave very keen on getting a VPN? There was a whole discussion of it under his BMEWS account.
 
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