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horse

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All these reports from western media sources, usually hostile to China and Chinese people, appears to be no more than a security blanket than Linus holds in that comic strip Peanuts.

The longer the list of countries on America's side, the better that security blanket feels.

We can pick any topic from politics to technology. There is always a long list of countries on American's side and not China's side. That makes people feel better, that they can handle China.

Those lists do not exist in the realm of economics, because one side cannot make a long list anymore, and no security blanket there.

That is just a mental crutch, to cope with the world?

Is that what has happened to Liberal media?

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Effortpost: Apple's Deepening Reliance on China's Manufacturing Industry (Also posted on the Economics Thread)
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According to the graph provided, there were 759 Apple suppliers around the world in 2017, increasing to 799 Apple suppliers by 2019. What I found this very interesting was that, despite 2 years of trade wars, analysis shows that Apple's manufacturing dependence on China has actually increased.

Despite tariffs and ensuing rumors of Apple leaving China, Apple's supplier base in China has grown from 349 to 383 between 2017, and 2019; China's share of Apple manufacturing and suppliers increased from 46% to 47.9%, nearly 2% over the last 2 years.

Meanwhile:

  • Apple's supplier base in SEA stayed stagnant at 88
  • Suppliers in Japan have decreased from 127 to 125
  • Suppliers in the US decreased from 68 to 58S
  • Suppliers in the EU decreased from 35 to 32
  • Suppliers in other nations (i.e. Brazil and India) decreased from 21 to 18.
Between 2017 and 2019, Apple's supplier base worldwide grew by 40. China racked up the lion's share of this increase (increasing by 34, taking up 85% of Apple's capacity and supplier expansion between these two years). If Apple is supposed to be "fleeing" China due to trade tensions, what then explains their growing dependence on China's manufacturing, even despite two years of trade tensions?

If we want to look purely at assembly, here's something interesting:
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The article notes:
But the factories outside China are smaller and, in the case of India and Brazil, Apple only uses them to meet domestic demand. Apple’s contract factories inside China, meanwhile, have added far more locations than outside, with Foxconn alone expanding from 19 locations in 2015 to 29 in 2019 and Pegatron going from eight to 12, according to Apple’s data. The new locations come as Apple has added watches, smart speakers and wireless headphones to its product lineup.
Overall, from the graph, we can see that Apple's assembly capacity in China has expanded from 30 assembly plants in China in 2015 to 52 assembly plants by 2019, growing by 22 assembly manufacturing operations in that time period. India's assembly manufacturing has grown from none in 2015 to 3 assembly plants in 2019. Brazil's Apple manufacturing assembly grew from 1 in 2015 to 2 in 2019, peaking at 3 assembly operations between 2016-17. Apple's manufacturing base in the US has merely stayed on 2 for the past 5 years. China's share of global Apple assembly operations was 91% in 2015, and 88% in 2019. If this is what you call "diversification", well... what do I have to say? Looks like they aren't succeeding well.
 

AssassinsMace

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I was thinking about something I posted earlier about how China made commercially viable a technology that was exhibited for years at CES where how they can show TV video through a transparent screen. No one else could do it. That's show you how China can make things the West can't make commercially available to the public. If they can't do that, the technology becomes useless. Are governments going to buy it? What do they need transparent screens for? Certainly not enough to make money from it. Just like refrigerators and air conditioners were once things that you only find in rich countries until China came along... If people want to make money from that technology, they have to do it from China.
 

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ASML CEO Peter Wennink says they can in fact continue to sell DUV lithography machines to China without needing to apply for US export license. However he did not discuss EUV.
Hi Temstar

I see a pattern, if you can manage to produce locally the same product that was sanction, they will unban you and will try to sell you the product. I think they know that SMEE 28NM DUVL will be release soon which compare to their own line up of DUVL is more advance. I hope SMIC will not be deceived by ASML last ditch effort and continue on its ingenious replacement drive.
 
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manqiangrexue

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While his recommendations are actually quite generic not very useful, most notably, former Google CEO admits China is just too big and too smart for America to compete against. As I said before, the US is exhibiting unprecedented insecurities regarding its own capabilities and fear of defeat when facing China, and also as I said before, they will use the excuse that China has just too many people to justify to Americans why the US cannot maintain its lead.
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Ex-Google chief: U.S. must do 'whatever it takes' to beat China on AI
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October 15, 2020

The U.S. needs an urgent national strategy on developing artificial intelligence technology to counter the rising competition from China, said former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, chair of the National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence.

"We want America to be inventing this stuff," Schmidt said. "Or at least the West."

Schmidt said Thursday that the U.S. should invest more in research, ethics and AI infrastructure and partner with countries such as Canada, the United Kingdom, Israel and Japan.

"China is simply too big," he said. "There are too many smart people for us to do this on our own."
 

Tyler

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Trump has gone bonkers lol

He's now attacking Huawei's cloud biz.

"Scorched earth retreat in play as US president unleashes late-term strike on Chinese tech flagship companies

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The Chinese will hit back on the clown for sure. China's digitized currency is going to disrupt the existing hegemony.
 
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