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Jiang ZeminFanboy

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^^ @carlzha
Yes, that's psycho because excluding Huawei there are really not that many Chinese companies that are far ahead of the American companies, so the USA will shoot itself in the foot if China takes American companies' patents in retaliation. In that case, China will gain.
 

daifo

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Interesting opinion piece from scmp. It is likely that Trump and his antics will trigger the world to seek a more multipolar world where not just 1 country can weaponize tech and finance to attack other countries arbitrary.
  • American pre-eminence was sustained by a grand bargain: it could sit at the top if it did not abuse its position – or it kept its abuse to bearable levels
  • Now that it no longer wants to behave responsibly, a more multipolar world which works for the benefit of all must be devised, argues Chandran Nair
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Kancil

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Told you.
They are hoping china will keep behaving "rationally" so they can keep pushing the boundary. First drone badge now this.
Would like to see what China has to say about this.
Hope the US AG's RICO tactic can succeed in seizing HW's patents. This will pave the way for the Chinese to reciprocate by reverse engineer or replicate all the necessary American semicon equipment and IPs for making high end chips without deference to Americans' copy rights. It is a win-win deal but heavily skewed towards the Chinese. HW's 5G tech in exchange for Americans' semicon tech which can help China to level or exceed the current standards quickly. And knowing that America's ability to utilize HW's 5G tech to build up the 5G network would take time to materialize while China's network is already far ahead, this looks like an amazing deal for the Chinese.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Interesting opinion piece from scmp. It is likely that Trump and his antics will trigger the world to seek a more multipolar world where not just 1 country can weaponize tech and finance to attack other countries arbitrary.
  • American pre-eminence was sustained by a grand bargain: it could sit at the top if it did not abuse its position – or it kept its abuse to bearable levels
  • Now that it no longer wants to behave responsibly, a more multipolar world which works for the benefit of all must be devised, argues Chandran Nair
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One can point to the religious institution and dogma that flooded in many American public schools and movies that has been promoted that American exceptionalism for decades.
This insecurity, rooted in an almost religious belief in its own exceptionalism, is fostered by the realisation that the US has lost much of its global leverage over the past few decades. Along with its reckless disregard for even
rules, this has ushered in a new era of global instability
 

j17wang

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Carl Zha is usually a pretty credible source. It's actually reasonable to expect that if the US was going to continue escalating, it would be through this path, in an attempt to provoke china. Remember that the US has been announcing new measures on a regular basis so this would fit the narrative of the final salvos prior to the elections. The only thing is that RICO charges take time to physically implement and there are only 4 weeks left to do anything. China probably doesn't need to do anything even if the charges are announced in the next 2 weeks, since the actual "damage" to china would be only the two weeks before the election. Right now, the only possibilities are 1) a contested election result, which makes enforcement of anything against china difficult, 2) an overwhelming biden victory, which will still make it difficult for Trump to continue "running" his government in the normal course. I think people at this stage have under-estimated the possibility of violence post-election, and some people are putting it around 50% chance. I think the actual odds are closer to 70-90% chance of electoral violence, mostly because both 1) and 2) will lead to electoral violence, just from different sides. People have focused too much on the chance of violence in 1), but not enough on the chances of violence in 2). There is no real possibility of 3) an ovewhelming trump victory which would empower Trump's administration.
 

siegecrossbow

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Carl Zha is usually a pretty credible source. It's actually reasonable to expect that if the US was going to continue escalating, it would be through this path, in an attempt to provoke china. Remember that the US has been announcing new measures on a regular basis so this would fit the narrative of the final salvos prior to the elections. The only thing is that RICO charges take time to physically implement and there are only 4 weeks left to do anything. China probably doesn't need to do anything even if the charges are announced in the next 2 weeks, since the actual "damage" to china would be only the two weeks before the election. Right now, the only possibilities are 1) a contested election result, which makes enforcement of anything against china difficult, 2) an overwhelming biden victory, which will still make it difficult for Trump to continue "running" his government in the normal course. I think people at this stage have under-estimated the possibility of violence post-election, and some people are putting it around 50% chance. I think the actual odds are closer to 70-90% chance of electoral violence, mostly because both 1) and 2) will lead to electoral violence, just from different sides. People have focused too much on the chance of violence in 1), but not enough on the chances of violence in 2). There is no real possibility of 3) an ovewhelming trump victory which would empower Trump's administration.

I think that Trump coming down with COVID might've thrown a wrench into the process for a few days or a week. Trump campaign needs to figure out how to deal with the immediate issue first.
 
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