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AndrewS

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Tam said:
I am not sure if you completely understand that Android phones in China use AOS or Android Open Source, which is a generic Android but without GMS or Google Mobile Services. This is truly open Android. Another example of AOS is the Amazon Fire Tablet in the US. This is generic Android but with Amazon apps and an Amazon app store. Android Open Source itself is free and is part of legal obligation of using open source software, as Android is based on Linux. The thing is, the current Chinese AOS already does what you hope HarmonyOS would do, and open source isn't subject to sanction. Open source is open source, and it means it is given free to the world to use. You don't need to have a license to use AOS.

Sure, HarmonyOS can become an alternative platform, but other Chinese smartphone makers like the BBK brands (Oppo, Vivo, OnePlus, RealMe), Xiaomi, ZTE Nubia, Meizu are fierce competitors to Huawei and don't necessarily trust Huawei either. They view Huawei and Harmony OS as an attempt to create a Chinese version of a closed Apple type ecosystem like iPhone and iOS where there hardware and the software are tightly integrated together, and isn't open to licensing like Microsoft Windows or Google Android. This would require the government and the Chinese telecom companies to step in to forge a neutral operating system standard that guarantees and protects the rights of the licensees.
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I do understand.

I did mention HarmonyOS has to be separated from Huawei.
And at this point, it is is Huawei's interest to do so.
 
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ansy1968

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Skywatcher said:
Honestly, what is Hongxin bringing that SMIC and Huahong (sp) don't already offer?
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Hi Skywatcher,

I thought Hongxin produce DRAM chips? About the latest chip ban on Huawei, can you give us some idea if there is any panic regarding theTaiwan tech company? will they do two separate production line for China and the US? and will Mediatek redo its chip without any US tech to supply the mainland tech company?
 
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KYli

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Hongxin is a new semiconductor company that aimed to have 7nm within a short time frame. As a new company with zero experience in semiconductor, Hongxin is too ambitious and being used by opportunists to make a quick buck by hiring a former TSMC COO to lead the company. Initially, Hubei provincial government supported the company but right now only Wuhan local government still voiced its support. It is likely that Hongxin wouldn't be able to secure more funding and needed to dissolve.

However, like the solar industry this is expected. At the time of the development of solar industry, dozens of Chinese companies which have backing of various local government have failed. The few remaining companies become the giants in the solar industry. Same thing is happening in the semiconductor industry. The central government isn't going to put all of their eggs in one basket. There would be an industry shakeout and the few strongest would survive and take on the world leaders such as TSMC and Samsung.
 
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Wangxi

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Another Chinese start-up makes the buzz on twitter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1296342702590554112

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The start up is called Beijing puppy robotics

They won an Edison Awards

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1245376686067253259

Another winner is PowerEgg X , a chinese company too and also Robosense

There is a lot of talent in China, and every day there are new start-ups in emerging technologies, US sanctions will not be able to stop this
 
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localizer

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KYli said:
Hongxin is a new semiconductor company that aimed to have 7nm within a short time frame. As a new company with zero experience in semiconductor, Hongxin is too ambitious and being used by opportunists to make a quick buck by hiring a former TSMC COO to lead the company. Initially, Hubei provincial government supported the company but right now only Wuhan local government still voiced its support. It is likely that Hongxin wouldn't be able to secure more funding and needed to dissolve.

However, like the solar industry this is expected. At the time of the development of solar industry, dozens of Chinese companies which have backing of various local government have failed. The few remaining companies become the giants in the solar industry. Same thing is happening in the semiconductor industry. The central government isn't going to put all of their eggs in one basket. There would be an industry shakeout and the few strongest would survive and take on the world leaders such as TSMC and Samsung.
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It's a cabal, it's just to steal money from the mainland. Probably some spies in there too to sabotage/hinder progress.

Can't do much about it though.
 
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galvatron

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AndrewS said:
I do understand.

I did mention HarmonyOS has to be separated from Huawei.
And at this point, it is is Huawei's interest to do so.
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The harmony OS separated from Huawei will become a national brand, directly chipping away at the pride ios and Android have garnered.
 
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