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emblem21

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Exactly, Britain was never going to use Huawei.
Who gives a fuck, the UK economy is screwed as hell due to its Brexit and they only have the US as a crutch now which is about has good as a no deal since the US economy is also in the shits as well due to Trump trying to open the economy up in the middle of the pandemic and when it is still in full swing. Both nations have lost the ability to innovate/lead because they have anti progressive idiots leading them, I mean there countries are literally top of the ranks in terms of infections and deaths from this pandemic while the HAD A BLOODY 2 MONTH PERIOD TO PREPARE from when China told the world officially. I mean they spend lots of time shitting on China but even at the worst of it, China did get shit together and even now is still helping other nations around the world, something the US and UK cannot do at all or rather does not have the heart to do. Not using Huawei makes a lick of difference since those nations will suffer, not China. Heck even taking in 3 million people from HK will do more harm to the UK and US then China and they are too proud and stupid to notice since they seem to think there empire is still at its peak rather falling all the way down like it is right now. All that it requires is a full on civil war (due to unemployment and racism) and then they are done. Now all Trump needs to do to kick that off is simply ending the stimulus package.....
 

ansy1968

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Huawei first PC desktop, Im not a techie guy, may I ask from knowledgeable SDF members regarding its SPEC and ARM design chips.

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This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like
2020-07-20 6:58:27 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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The latest information posted by Twitter user @_rogame gives us a glimpse of what the Huawei desktop PC might look like.
As can be seen from the images, the Huawei desktop PC has three USB-A and one USB-C ports on the front as well as headset and microphone ports and can also be equipped with an optical drive.

This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like-cnTechPost


It has four USB-A ports on the back panel as well as a network cable port and a nine-pin serial port (RS-232).
This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like-cnTechPost

This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like-cnTechPost



Also, according to ITHome, a Chinese user has posted images of the Huawei desktop PC in real life, corroborating the images posted by @_rogame.
This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like-cnTechPost


The Huawei desktop PC is powered by its own Kunpeng 920 3211K processor which has 24 cores and can run at up to 2.6 GHz.
This is what Huawei's first desktop PC could look like-cnTechPost



Earlier this month, a user of Chinese video platform Bilibili introduced a Huawei desktop PC with a Kunpeng 920 2249K, but it only has 8 cores and 8 threads, and a different chassis design than this one.

The Kunpeng 920 processor was introduced by Huawei at CES 2019 and is aimed at the server market. The Kunpeng 920 is built on a 7nm process, based on the ARMv8 architecture. It has up to 64 cores and 8 threads at 2.6 GHz and has 8-channel DDR4, PCIe 4.0 and CCIX support.
From the recent information, Huawei is using the 8-core and 24-core Kunpeng 920 processor in domestic PCs, with more expected to come later.
 

Red Moon

Junior Member
The pacemaker situation is eye opening. Ty.

Unmanned anything isn't that commendable an "achievement". I don't see it as a technological development either. What's the innovation involved here? Unmanned ships, Trains, road rollers, lawn Mowers etc aren't exactly big innovations. I see these as mere PR or Marketing. Borderline gimmicky even.

Let's be real, most of us know this. XCMG gets points for better PR.

What we need are champions who do heavy lifting. Champions who tinker with Basic Physics, Chemistry, Metallurgy etc. Big companies who really explore the cutting edge. Big companies who leave others far behind.

Huawei just got dumped by TSMC. I personally observe cautious optimism over this news. This means that there is an incentive. It means that the path is clear - either strive for greatness or go down with 2015-2020 as the golden Era for Huawei.

It's upto the Chinese to decide if they're going to be told what to do or if they want to forge their own path.
Unmanned may not be the greatest "achievement", but it should pay off handsomely. Road construction 24x7 with minimal or no crew... I think this is pretty cool and useful. If it's low hanging fruit, so much the better.
 

emblem21

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Well what do you expect, by pandering to the USA, China has no choice but to cut loose from the UK, meaning that the UK has to fend for themselves. What this means is that in the likely situation that China would have been there cushion from there stupid actions in regards to Brexit, now they will fall straight down and no one will save them (considering there history as an empire that never appologies for there actions, it would be in everyone's best interest in letting the UK destroy itself if they cannot stop there flip flopping tendencies, the USA is not their friend). Heck the US pretty much got them into this largely avoidable situation. I swear Pompeo is going to destroy the economies of all of the USA's allies because of his hate for China and lack of foresight in regards to actions having consequences. I wonder, when the US decouples from China and has to make and build all of there crap themselves, I am wondering, who is going to go to the trouble to bring manufacturing back when there is almost no profit for doing so.
 

ansy1968

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Chinese panel maker Tianma launches world's first LCD in-display multipoint fingerprint solution
2020-07-20 20:13:32 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Chinese panel maker Tianma launches world's first LCD in-display multipoint fingerprint solution-cnTechPost

Chinese panel manufacturer Tianma Microelectronics today announced the release of TED Finger Print (TFP), the world's first multi-point, in-screen fingerprint solution for LCD screens.

The solution is a fingerprint image capture device embedded in a TFT display substrate, which for the first time integrates the three functions of touch, display and fingerprint recognition into one.

It covers the entire display with an optical path and sensor, and is equipped with a sensor based on a glass substrate that has no size limitation.
Tianma said the TFP in-screen multipoint fingerprint solution has three core benefits.
Highly integrated. This technology is the first to achieve touch, display and fingerprint recognition in one.


It breaks through the limitation that optical fingerprint inside LCD screen is difficult to match the normal cover thickness, making it more competitive and mass-producible.
As the optical modulation unit is integrated into the display, the thickness of the display is reduced by more than 50% compared to the external collimated optical path design, making the end product design thinner and lighter.

Full-screen fingerprint multipoint recognition. It supports fingerprint multi-point identification of the entire screen at any display area, which can be applied to blind unlock of the whole screen, APP encryption and unlock, and custom fingerprint control.
High screen-to-body ratio. The fingerprint recognition function is built into the display, which can effectively increase the screen-to-body ratio of the end product and provide users with a more extreme visual experience.


Under-screen fingerprint identification technology is a technology that completes the fingerprint identification and unlocking process through the bottom of the screen glass, including capacitive, optical and ultrasonic categories.

Chinese panel maker Tianma launches world's first LCD in-display multipoint fingerprint solution-cnTechPost

However, due to technical and cost reasons, most of the products currently equipped with this technology can only achieve single-tap fingerprint recognition in a fixed area.
Tianma's solution integrates a fingerprint image grabber into the display, providing a larger recognition area than off-screen fingerprint products.
Currently, Tianma's technology is ready for mass production and samples are being sent to partners worldwide.
 

ansy1968

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I know China stock exchange is like a casino, but people do see value in this tech company in the long term as they invest and do a lot on R&D.

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Cambricon goes public, becoming first AI chip firm in China's A-share market
2020-07-20 20:38:15 GMT+8 | cnTechPost
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Cambricon goes public, becoming first AI chip firm in China's A-share market-cnTechPost

On July 20, China's most valuable AI chip start-ups Cambricon Technologies went public on China's SSE Star Market, becoming the first AI chip stock in the A-share market.

Cambricon rose more than 350% after the opening, and was still up nearly 230% by the close of trading, with a share price of 212.40 yuan and a market capitalization of 85 billion yuan.

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Data shows that from 2017 to 2019, Cambricon revenue was about 7.84 million yuan, 117 million yuan, and 444 million yuan, respectively, with an average compound annual growth rate of 652%.
Cambricon's 2018 year-over-year growth of over 1392% is quite impressive.


However, Cambricon's profitability is not good, showing a trend of increasing losses.
In the last three years, Cambricon lost 381 million yuan, 41 million yuan, and 1.179 billion yuan respectively, totaling more than 1.6 billion yuan in losses.

According to Cambricon, in addition to the impact of a large amount of share incentive payments, the main reason is the company's large research and development expenditure, and the product is still in the market expansion stage.
Cambricon expects to report a loss of 210 million to 230 million yuan in the first half of this year.


According to the prospectus, Cambricon's research and development expenses for the last three years were about 30 million yuan, 240 million yuan, and 543 million yuan, respectively, all of which exceeded the size of its annual revenue.

At the end of 2019, the company had 680 R&D staff, accounting for nearly 80% of the total.
However, the results of intensive R&D are quite fruitful. At present, Cambricon has developed three types of general-purpose smart chip products for three major scenarios: terminal, cloud, and edge.
 

Skywatcher

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By 2025, SMIC will probably be on pilot/LRIP of 3nm (assuming that CIOMP/SMEE has delivered a high numeric aperture EUV tool prototype in that timeframe), and TSMC established on 2nm.
Apparently TSMC can do 3nm with current EUV lithographic machines, so SMIC probably won't need to wait for the CIOMP/SMEE high NA EUV tool to come out before moving on its own 3nm.

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Apparently photomasks is key to 3nm at 0.33 NA EUV.

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ZeEa5KPul

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Apparently TSMC can do 3nm with current EUV lithographic machines, so SMIC probably won't need to wait for the CIOMP/SMEE high NA EUV tool to come out before moving on its own 3nm.

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Apparently photomasks is key to 3nm at 0.33 NA EUV.

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So CIOMP/SMEE's upcoming EUV machine (the one corresponding to the 2017 tech demonstrator) should be able to reach 3nm?
 
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