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vesicles

Colonel
Envy???
You must be smoking something not allowed!!
Where in the world would you envy a plan that could and may become the worst nuclear disaster, branded as a nation that launches a dirty bomb into orbit?
Basically solar panels can generate enough power to power up most all electrical equipment unlike the past.
Rocket science can and will fail in the past, in the present and, in the future thinking it will not shows arrogance towards nature/or the limit of humans.

Wait a minute. I got here late but when did anyone say anything about launching a nuclear anything into space???

I thought they were talking about a small nuclear power station the size of a trailer so that they put it on some island...

I'm confused...
 

vesicles

Colonel
Envy???
You must be smoking something not allowed!!
Where in the world would you envy a plan that could and may become the worst nuclear disaster, branded as a nation that launches a dirty bomb into orbit?
Basically solar panels can generate enough power to power up most all electrical equipment unlike the past.
Rocket science can and will fail in the past, in the present and, in the future thinking it will not shows arrogance towards nature/or the limit of humans.

One more thing. Have you thought about how the supposedly leaked radiation get back down on earth? In your scenario, the power station is in space. Wouldn't the earth gravity at least keep the toxic material in orbit?

How would any of the toxic stuff, get back down on earth?

How would any of this material keep intact while passing through the atmosphere, one of the main function of which is to reflect sun's radiation?

If it is some kind of heavy material, it would most likely burn out while passing through the atmosphere. Yes?

And in your scenario, how would the supposedly leaked radiation compare to the powerful radiation of our sun? My guess is "infinitely insignificant"... keep in mind that our sun emits a lot UV radiation. Most nuclear reactors emits radiation at much less longer wavelengths.
 
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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Envy???
You must be smoking something not allowed!!
Where in the world would you envy a plan that could and may become the worst nuclear disaster, branded as a nation that launches a dirty bomb into orbit?
Basically solar panels can generate enough power to power up most all electrical equipment unlike the past.
Rocket science can and will fail in the past, in the present and, in the future thinking it will not shows arrogance towards nature/or the limit of humans.
Envy, SadBlue. With every post. Did I stutter?

Imagining catastrophic accidents for other people while you actually had a real accident and can't clean it up is envy. You want it on others but it happened to you, why you? LOL Envy for other people because they can read and you cannot (even after it was pointed out to you, no less). Nobody said anything about a space launch except you cus you made it up because you can't read the actual information. Envy for others developing technologies that you don't have and don't have the resources to research. Envy for others having the knowledge to innovate and explore leading you to pathetically try to cut them down with wikipedia. On a larger scale, envy of someone being wayyy bigger than you with a rocketing economy while your country deals with population decline, aging, and an economy that swaggers annually between stagnation and recession. Any more questions about your envy? Need a dictionary?
 
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manqiangrexue

Brigadier
One more thing. Have you thought about how the supposedly leaked radiation get back down on earth? In your scenario, the power station is in space. Wouldn't the earth gravity at least keep the toxic material in orbit?

How would any of the toxic stuff, get back down on earth?

How would any of this material keep intact while passing through the atmosphere, one of the main function of which is to reflect sun's radiation?

If it is some kind of heavy material, it would most likely burn out while passing through the atmosphere. Yes?

And in your scenario, how would the supposedly leaked radiation compare to the powerful radiation of our sun? My guess is "infinitely insignificant"... keep in mind that our sun emits a lot UV radiation. Most nuclear reactors emits radiation at much less longer wavelengths.
No, Vesicles, nobody said anything about a space launch. The article says it's a mini-generator cooled by lead to enhance safety for providing power and drinking water for up to 50,000 homes and is ideal for use on small islands. SadBlue imagined a space launch due to reading comprehension disabilities and now he's sticking with it like it's other people's crazy idea.

SB: "Hey, what do you do on the weekend?"
Others: "I chill, maybe take a walk."
SB: "Walk where? To the club? Yeah?"
Others: "Not really, the park."
SB: "What? To the club? To hit on minors?"
Others: "No, to the park to walk my dog."
SB: "You hit on kids at the club! Dude! That's gross! Pedophile!! We have a pedophile over here!"

The things you do when you have nothing else to cling to. And even if they did send it into space, he still wouldn't have a good point. He says all satellites must come back down and the reentry would be like throwing a dirty nuclear bomb at the earth. Obviously if you don't have a way to take care of that, then just use its last remaining energy (with a healthy margin of error) to push it out of orbit and into deep space instead of having it come back to earth causing a mess.
 
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PiSigma

"the engineer"
SB was talking about the danger of launching a nuclear reactor into space. Therefore, I asked if there was ever an accident in space that was as bad as Fukushima. But we can't assume that no earthquake in space means it's safe. Anyway, I'm letting it rest here.
No tsunamis either. So I think we are okay.

But if a nuclear core dropped into the ocean, it might start a nuclear tidal wave and pollute the entire pacific rim!
Sarcasm off.
 

keldon

New Member
Registered Member
No, Vesicles, nobody said anything about a space launch. The article says it's a mini-generator cooled by lead to enhance safety for providing power and drinking water for up to 50,000 homes and is ideal for use on small islands. SadBlue imagined a space launch due to reading comprehension disabilities and now he's sticking with it like it's other people's crazy idea.

SB: "Hey, what do you do on the weekend?"
Others: "I chill, maybe take a walk."
SB: "Walk where? To the club? Yeah?"
Others: "Not really, the park."
SB: "What? To the club? To hit on minors?"
Others: "No, to the park to walk my dog."
SB: "You hit on kids at the club! Dude! That's gross! Pedophile!! We have a pedophile over here!"

The things you do when you have nothing else to cling to. And even if they did send it into space, he still wouldn't have a good point. He says all satellites must come back down and the reentry would be like throwing a dirty nuclear bomb at the earth. Obviously if you don't have a way to take care of that, then just use its last remaining energy (with a healthy margin of error) to push it out of orbit and into deep space instead of having it come back to earth causing a mess.

You know that somebody will cry to the mods for your harsh posts, right? Would be sad if they ban the wrong guy.

btw. blue or rather "blau werden" is a german slang for getting dead drunk, this may be a slightly more polite way to express your doubt about his reading comprehension. ;)
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
You know that somebody will cry to the mods for your harsh posts, right? Would be sad if they ban the wrong guy.

btw. blue or rather "blau werden" is a german slang for getting dead drunk, this may be a slightly more polite way to express your doubt about his reading comprehension. ;)
It was a reading comprehension issue at first. Now it's evolved. After at least 2 people have already pointed out his obvious mistake to him, he's realized it's just too embarrassing to admit to now so the only way forward is to just fervently pretend that the developers said it was a space nuke and ignore that there are black and white words as evidence against him. It's basically like voluntarily going down with the ship. It's how the Japanese deal with history.
 
Anyway, just for the sake of debate, what makes you and Jura
I beg your pardon
t2contra
did you perhaps confuse me with
Janiz
? LOL all I did was, while waiting for my meal, going over (very few at that time) recent posts and noticing a knowledge gap of
SamuraiBlue
which I tried to fill, as I indicated Today at 11:53 AM

obviously I didn't imply anything about:
think that because of the past Soviet failures, the Chinese or the Soviets for that matter, could not succeed in their later attempts? Did the Soviet failures pollute the Earth like Fukushima?
as I hadn't read previous posts :)

by the way I think I read most of publicly available info about that Soviet tracking/targeting system which had been a stunning maritime asset
 

delft

Brigadier
And the word "Nuclear" came out publicly in September last year when the INEST Institute of Nuclear Energy Safety Technology, a branch of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, made the headline news Revealing their success in testing a molten lead cooling system dedicated to a new miniature rapid neutron reactor called CLEAR-I (一号 一号), currently under development.
Looks interesting. I expect that a liquid metal cooled reactor would use a much higher temperature than a pressurized water reactor like 700⁰ C rather than 350⁰ C and so have a much higher efficiency. But wouldn't the lead become radio-active?
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
It was a reading comprehension issue at first. Now it's evolved. After at least 2 people have already pointed out his obvious mistake to him, he's realized it's just too embarrassing to admit to now so the only way forward is to just fervently pretend that the developers said it was a space nuke and ignore that there are black and white words as evidence against him. It's basically like voluntarily going down with the ship. It's how the Japanese deal with history.
That "pretending" behavior is not the first time and will not be the last time.:rolleyes:
 
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