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It amuses me to see articles like this. At current rate, there won't be much of a Titanium industry in Western country in 5 years. So much Chinese capacity coming online.
There never was, outside from in Japan. The US had a very feeble titanium metal industry which was never good enough to satisfy their own demand. You have to remember they made the SR-71 with imported Soviet titanium, and that was when the US was still an industrial powerhouse.

Creating titanium metal smelters and refiners takes many years of long investments before getting decent output out of it. This is something Western investors expecting instant profits balk at financing.

A couple decades ago there was a lot of excitement about the FFC Cambridge process.
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People expected it to replace the Kroll process with something more energetically efficient similar to electrolysis of aluminium, but it flopped. Titanium will remain expensive until someone comes up with something better than the Kroll process.
 
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That was Titanium sponge before and this the Titanium material (I guess alloy is a subset of this). it isn't clear to me what other type of titanium product is included here.

Anyway, you can see that they are still importing a fair amount of Titanium product, but obviously exporting a lot more. That would seem to indicate there are still some Titanium product they are unable to make domestically.
 

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Just to show how "rich" the country is in carbon fibres nowadays, China is building cargo freight train cars from this once expensive and scarce material. The very first six carbon fibre train cars will be used for hauling coals.

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I think currently, the structural material for mobile ICBM is also carbon fiber.

By implanting electrodes in the brain and spinal cord to build a "nerve bypass" system between the two body parts, scientists from Fudan University in Shanghai have reached a breakthrough in brain-spine interface research, creating a device that could enable paralyzed people to walk again.
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China expands superconducting quantum computer manufacturing chain.
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I think currently, the structural material for mobile ICBM is also carbon fiber.


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China expands superconducting quantum computer manufacturing chain.
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Aerospace uses both T (high tensile strength) series and M (high modulus) series carbon fibers.
Both Guangwei and CAS Ningbo are now able to produce the highest performance class M65J high modulus CF.
Downstream of CF, Guangwei and others have also begun to make their own fiber placement machine (AFP).
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The more niche SiC fiber industry in China is also taking off, which is more heat-resistant and applicable in aeroengine hot section parts.
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China is now world's far and away largest Titanium producer of raw ore, sponge and alloy.

It amuses me to see articles like this. At current rate, there won't be much of a Titanium industry in Western country in 5 years. So much Chinese capacity coming online.

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China is also the largest producer of titanium dioxide (TiO2). In 2024 so far, China has had 83% of the global production capacity, up from 29% in 2008. Export of the white powder increased from 1 million tons in 2019 to 1.64 million tons in 2023.

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近年来,中国钛白粉出口呈现增长态势。《金融时报》援引涂料咨询公司TZMI的数据称,中国二氧化钛的产能已从2008年的140万吨激增至今年的约610万吨,使其在全球市场所占份额从29%升至83%。
数据显示,我国钛白粉出口总量从2019年的100万吨增至2023年的164万吨,年均增长13%。出口地区仍以亚洲为主(55%),欧洲和南美洲的市场份额相对稳定在20%和10%左右。
 

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Aerospace uses both T (high tensile strength) series and M (high modulus) series carbon fibers.
Both Guangwei and CAS Ningbo are now able to produce the highest performance class M65J high modulus CF.
Downstream of CF, Guangwei and others have also begun to make their own fiber placement machine (AFP).
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The more niche SiC fiber industry in China is also taking off, which is more heat-resistant and applicable in aeroengine hot section parts.
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yes, the M series carbon fiber seems to be aimed at missiles. Mass producing this should bring significant improvement to cost and performance of their ballistic missiles and other high speed missiles.
 

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from 中复神鹰's recent investor Q&A
依托中复神鹰上海航空预浸料项目的建成,a公司目前重点推广碳纤维
及其复合材料在 EVTOL、低空货运无人机、低空载人飞行器、低空农植机
等低空场景中进行应用验证评价,并继续与商飞合作做好大飞机等典型结
构件的应用验证工作。相信未来,在合适的时机下,公司会综合研判并进
军下游复材领域。
6、连云港三万吨有最新进展吗?
目前三万吨整体项目建设进度有序推进,预计在 2025 年将陆续有产线
进入试产阶段。
so they are aiming to promote carbon fiber usage in eVTOL, long altitude unmanned aircraft, low attitude manned flying machines, low altitude agricultural drones and such. So yeah, these guys are really looking to capitalize on China's low altitude economy.

Also, they got a 30k ton plant getting ready in Lianyungang, there is just so much capacity coming online over the next few years.

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截至 24H1,公司总产能已达到 2.85 万吨,产能规模跃居全国第二、世界前三,
T700 级以上碳纤维产量位居国内第一;压力容器、碳/碳热场碳纤维产品国内市占
率超 50%,全球市占率超 15%。公司涵盖了高强标模型、高强中模型、高强高模
型等 20 个产品系列,40 余种产品规格,产品规格覆盖 1K-48K 各种型号,持续
助力加快碳纤维国产化替代进程。
So Zhongfu actually has the most T700 and above capacity in China. It has 28.5k ton capacity overall, top 3 in the world. I believe only Toray and Jilin has more capacity than them.
 

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I think CN is also using Carbon fiber for a model of high speed train, if i remember correctly...

It amuses me to see articles like this. At current rate, there won't be much of a Titanium industry in Western country in 5 years. So much Chinese capacity coming online.
Curious, how big is the titanium mining/reserves in CN?
 
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Yes, they are the largest Titanium miners, but not enough for their Titanium production. They have become a huge Titanium ore importer now.
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See how much they import in row 4. 2024 to 2026 are estimates here. Domestic production is not close to being enough to meet the demand.
 
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