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measuredingabens

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NiuBiDaRen said:
How would you suggest doing this? Do you mean relax COVID zero? Or recreational marijuana, or offer dual passports, allow more non-ethnic Chinese immigration, legalize prostitution and gambling or something?

I knew this guy who organized an overseas conference for Nobel Physics laureates, and he told me the laureates actually wanted to visit brothels during their free time. No kidding. Lol. I still can't believe it. I'm sure a lot of top scientists use recreational drugs.
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Probably in the form of dual citizenship and/or a few relaxed regulations. I don't see immigration law changes doing all that much for non-Chinese individuals as more homogenous societies tend to be harder to integrate into.

I don't think it's any surprise that many top scientists have a bit of eccentricity to them. Scientists are people all the same, and thus can be beholden to the same vices as everyone else. So long as those vices aren't harming others and affecting their performance a bit of leeway can probably be tolerated.
 
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NiuBiDaRen said:
How would you suggest doing this? Do you mean relax COVID zero? Or recreational marijuana, or offer dual passports, allow more non-ethnic Chinese immigration, legalize prostitution and gambling or something?

I knew this guy who organized an overseas conference for Nobel Physics laureates, and he told me the laureates actually wanted to visit brothels during their free time. No kidding. Lol. I still can't believe it. I'm sure a lot of top scientists use recreational drugs.
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Recreational marijuana, same-sex marriage, dual passports, more non-ethnic immigration, legalized prostitution, and gambling should all be approached critically and objectively.

We don't need the garbage vice police of Iran, at the same time, china respects science and evidence-based approach, hence zero covid. There is no contradiction between those.

And yes, China will take a top scientist with recreational drugs if he/she can help build our common prosperity.
 
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Chinese structural biologist Yan Ning to return to China to establish medical academy

By Global Times Published: Nov 02, 2022 12:09 AM


Yan Ning Photo: VCG

The photo taken on November 1, 2022 shows Yan Ning at Shenzhen Global Innovation Talent Forum. Photo: VCG

Chinese structural biologist Yan Ning announced on Tuesday that she will resign from Princeton University in the US and join in the establishment of Shenzhen Medical Academy of Research and Translation (SMART) in the near future. The move comes amid efforts by the country to attract more top talent to return to China for opportunities and development.

"In the near future, I will return to China full-time to assist in establishing a new research and development institution in Shenzhen, which is named SMART, integrating several functions including scientific research, transformation, student cultivation and financial support," 45-year-old Yan said at the Shenzhen Global Innovation Talent Forum on Tuesday.

Yan received her degree from the Department of Biological Sciences and Biotechnology at Tsinghua University in China in 2000. She was the regional winner of the Young Scientist Award (North America) co-sponsored by Science/AAAS and GE Healthcare in 2005 for her thesis on the structural and mechanistic study of programmed cell death, according to her biography on the Princeton University website.

Yan earned her PhD at Princeton in 2004, and returned in 2018 as the first Shirley M. Tilghman Professor of Molecular Biology. She was elected as National Academy of Sciences Foreign Associate in 2019 for outstanding contributions to research.

The establishment of the new medical academy in Shenzhen is one of the main projects in building a pilot demonstration area of socialism with Chinese characteristics in Shenzhen, according to the medical academy.

The academy is being set up by the Shenzhen local government and the head of the academy is the legal representative of SMART.

"Shenzhen is the city of dreams, and I want to realize my next dream here," Yan said during the forum.

Yan said she wanted to support more outstanding scholars and to tackle various health threats facing mankind, according to The Paper on Tuesday. Shenzhen offered the right opportunity and the city can build its place in the global biomedicine field, Yang said.

The topic "Yan announced to leave the US and return to China" has got more than 300 million clicks on China's Twitter-like Sina Weibo as of press time, with many netizens welcoming Yan's decision to return to the motherland.

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j17wang said:
Recreational marijuana, same-sex marriage, dual passports, more non-ethnic immigration, legalized prostitution, and gambling should all be approached critically and objectively.

We don't need the garbage vice police of Iran, at the same time, china respects science and evidence-based approach, hence zero covid. There is no contradiction between those.

And yes, China will take a top scientist with recreational drugs if he/she can help build our common prosperity.
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It is hypocritical that China widely promotes alcohol culture even using revolutionary imagery in some places but fiercely oppose marijuana legalization.

Marijuana is far less harmful, it is just culturally foreign to China, but if alcohol can be swapped for marijuana overnight in the whole country, then it would be a most positive trade.

Of course, the issue is that if marijuana is legalized, alcohol will still persist, so the danger is that instead of decreasing harm, it will just create more high people.

Addiction is caused first and foremost by people losing hope due to living in horrible conditions. Did British soldiers point guns at Qing people and force them to smoke opium? No. Are there PLA soldiers forcing Americans to inject fentanyl? No.

During the period of the opium war, opium and even worse drugs were also legal in Britain, but British people firstly lived in a far more centralized and controlled environment, where a day of not working would mean homelessness and death. Secondly, they were living in an environment where the parents had horrible lives but their children very noticeably could see light at the end of the tunnel. That aspect of life getting better and better meant Imperial Britain only got normal levels of addiction.

As long as China manages to keep people happy, safe and give them access to healthcare to end addiction, having all sorts of addictive substances legal will not harm the overall trends of the country.
 
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