News on China's scientific and technological development.
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manqiangrexue
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Well, your explanation has nothing to do with anything going on here. If that's what you were thinking, there would be no reason to bring it up. My explanation, that your arguments are garbage, is dead on relevent and everyone can see.
Because you're wrong and have trouble accepting it. You digress too much.
Ok, you clearly did not understand what you quoted:
"A shortage is not the same as a system that naturally needs less of that type of talent. CEOs are always paid more than blue collars because a CEO's talents are rarer but they are supposed to be because a company doesn't need more CEOs than janitors. A company can have 1 very highly paid CEO and it will remain that way no matter how many competing offers there are for the position. They will not dock his pay and they will not hire a whole bunch more CEOs. There is no shortage, simply, his skill is worth more."
1 and 3 are what I say. No to your second addition; it presents security risks, harms Chinese homogenity (which is a spectrum, not a yes/no), and adds to an oversupply of STEM. Developing Chinese talent, with foreign short term contractors alleviates everything. The solution is simply superior.
I don't know what "unnecessary" means. You probably trapped yourself into another round of need vs want here. Chinese want to remain homogeneous and your inability to comprehend this doesn't change anything.
This is stupid; it's just a repeated and unsubstantiated regurgitation. The crime rate is irrelevent and incalculable as it pertains here. It's obvious that a Chinese person who chose to return to China is less likley to betray the nation, whether legally or illegally than a foreigner with either no relevent allegience (except to money) or allegience to a hostile power. There is no reason to believe that the security risks are easy to mitigate; a person working in a highly specialized role in your company will invariably understand at least parts of your strategy and come into contact with sensitive information. If he quits and goes back home, there is nothing you can do to stop him from using what he knows to help the companies of his nation against yours.
Everyone else understands. Lots of people agree. That you don't and need them repeated again and again doesn't make you a tough debator; it makes you... less able to comprehend things; what do they call it? Stupid.
Ok, so you admit that you were wrong, good.
This argument is just you repeating over and over again defeated points without any meaningful rebuttal. Everyone else here sees it; go back and trace the conversation and see how many times I've had to repeat things to you, and how many times other people get it and agree. Even for the stupidest people, at some point, they realize that they can't be right and everyone else wrong; even the stupidest driver eventually realizes he needs to pull over and turn around as he passes more and more drivers swerving as they come towards him in his own lane. It's just a matter of when.
You can start here:
News on China's scientific and technological development.
And hats off to trusty old anti-Asian hate crimes.... doing wonders in keeping the talent away and dumbing down murikkka. Still substantial student flow
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Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Come on guys enough time to move on
Western analyst and MSM find all kind of fault with Chinese economy from baby bust, run away debt, it get old before getting rich, pear shape demographic profile, rising labor cost. But they forget Chinese dynamism, entrepreneur spirit, chinese intelligent. Far from getting stuck in middle income trap, China will kept the economy advance with new invention and new production method. From Yahoo
Wed, August 11, 2021, 5:43 PM
For many years now, China has been the world’s factory. Even in 2020, as other economies struggled with the effects of the pandemic, China’s manufacturing output was $3.854 trillion, up from the previous year, accounting for nearly a third of the global market.
But if you are still thinking of China’s factories as sweatshops, it’s probably time to change your perception. The Chinese economic recovery from its short-lived pandemic blip has been boosted by its world-beating adoption of artificial intelligence (AI). After overtaking the U.S. in 2014, China now has a significant lead over the rest of the world in AI patent applications. In academia, China recently surpassed the U.S. in the number of both AI research publications and journal citations. Commercial applications are flourishing: a new wave of automation and AI infusion is crashing across a swath of sectors, combining software, hardware and robotics.
As a society, we have experienced three distinct industrial revolutions: steam power, electricity and information technology. I believe AI is the engine fueling the fourth industrial revolution globally, digitizing and automating everywhere. China is at the forefront in manifesting this unprecedented change.
Chinese traditional industries are confronting rising labor costs thanks to a declining working population and slowing population growth. The answer is AI, which reduces operational costs, enhances efficiency and productivity-, and generates revenue growth.
For example, Guangzhou-based agricultural-technology company XAG, a Sinovation Ventures portfolio company, is sending drones, robots and sensors to rice, wheat and cotton fields, automating seeding, pesticide spraying, crop development and weather monitoring. XAG’s R150 autonomous vehicle, which sprays crops, has recently been deployed in the U.K. to be used on apples, strawberries and blackberries.
Some companies are rolling out robots in new and unexpected sectors. MegaRobo, a Beijing-based life-science automation company also backed by Sinovation Ventures, designs AI and robots to safely perform repetitive and precise laboratory work in universities, pharmaceutical companies and more, reducing to zero the infection risk to lab workers.
Western analyst and MSM find all kind of fault with Chinese economy from baby bust, run away debt, it get old before getting rich, pear shape demographic profile, rising labor cost. But they forget Chinese dynamism, entrepreneur spirit, chinese intelligent. Far from getting stuck in middle income trap, China will kept the economy advance with new invention and new production method. From Yahoo
China Is Still the World's Factory—And It's Designing the Future With AI
Kai-Fu LeeWed, August 11, 2021, 5:43 PM
For many years now, China has been the world’s factory. Even in 2020, as other economies struggled with the effects of the pandemic, China’s manufacturing output was $3.854 trillion, up from the previous year, accounting for nearly a third of the global market.
But if you are still thinking of China’s factories as sweatshops, it’s probably time to change your perception. The Chinese economic recovery from its short-lived pandemic blip has been boosted by its world-beating adoption of artificial intelligence (AI). After overtaking the U.S. in 2014, China now has a significant lead over the rest of the world in AI patent applications. In academia, China recently surpassed the U.S. in the number of both AI research publications and journal citations. Commercial applications are flourishing: a new wave of automation and AI infusion is crashing across a swath of sectors, combining software, hardware and robotics.
As a society, we have experienced three distinct industrial revolutions: steam power, electricity and information technology. I believe AI is the engine fueling the fourth industrial revolution globally, digitizing and automating everywhere. China is at the forefront in manifesting this unprecedented change.
Chinese traditional industries are confronting rising labor costs thanks to a declining working population and slowing population growth. The answer is AI, which reduces operational costs, enhances efficiency and productivity-, and generates revenue growth.
For example, Guangzhou-based agricultural-technology company XAG, a Sinovation Ventures portfolio company, is sending drones, robots and sensors to rice, wheat and cotton fields, automating seeding, pesticide spraying, crop development and weather monitoring. XAG’s R150 autonomous vehicle, which sprays crops, has recently been deployed in the U.K. to be used on apples, strawberries and blackberries.
Some companies are rolling out robots in new and unexpected sectors. MegaRobo, a Beijing-based life-science automation company also backed by Sinovation Ventures, designs AI and robots to safely perform repetitive and precise laboratory work in universities, pharmaceutical companies and more, reducing to zero the infection risk to lab workers.
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The next general-purpose technologies: Artificial Intelligence, Robotics, Digital Communications and to a lesser extent, quantum computing (though that has a whiles off before commercialization)
AssassinsMace
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Seems like anything with the word sino attracts people, who are adept in instructing their biological parents, the fine art of copulation.
FriedRiceNSpice
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The undisputed fact is in fields where China is competitive, the top talent is staying in China. The one's coming to work in the US are either unable to compete in the competitive Chinese market, or are hoping that experience gained in the US (in fields where the US is still a industry leader) will enable to them eventually be more competitive in the Chinese market. Doesn't matter whether these are postgraduate students or not - a PhD by itself means absolutely jack shit.
Heck, if I had the skills / knowledge to be competitive, I'd return to China to work for Huawei. But I don't, while in the US I can easily cruise along at the elite level of my field.
In fields where China is still catching up, it's a good thing for Chinese students/engineers/scientists to spend time in US gaining valuable experience and knowledge. This is why the Trump administration raised such a big fuss of limiting the number of Chinese nationals that can study/work in certain fields in the US. It absolutely does not matter if a large number of these Chinese stay in the US - since the best of them are returning to China with their skills and know-how. The ones that stay were simply not good enough.
Heck, if I had the skills / knowledge to be competitive, I'd return to China to work for Huawei. But I don't, while in the US I can easily cruise along at the elite level of my field.
In fields where China is still catching up, it's a good thing for Chinese students/engineers/scientists to spend time in US gaining valuable experience and knowledge. This is why the Trump administration raised such a big fuss of limiting the number of Chinese nationals that can study/work in certain fields in the US. It absolutely does not matter if a large number of these Chinese stay in the US - since the best of them are returning to China with their skills and know-how. The ones that stay were simply not good enough.