New Type98/99 MBT thread

[Skywatcher]

The Christie tank could, I believe. And the Germans detracked some Panzers to act as armored rail road cars.

And besides, the wheels without the tracks still can operate like normal wheels, though they wouldn't do too well off the road.

 

[challenge]

3 years ago, Kanwa reported that due to type-98 high cost, PLA decided to adapt MBT-2000 chassic.
at first glance both chassic look same, but mbt-2000 use torsion bar,while type 98 use combine hydro-pneumatic suspension and torsion bar,which make the chassic much more expensive.
Chinese approach in some way very similiar to the Soviet experience with T-64.
T-64 chassic adapted a lot of new technology,like hydropneumatic suspension and new non metallic armour such as ceramic and fiber glass.but this make t-64 far more expensive.result is T-72 tank.which are cheaper than T-64

 

[crobato]

tanks picture more likely rebuilt,rather than new production..

I doubt that there are a lot of T-98s or 99s to be rebuilt from.

 

[Skywatcher]

3 years ago, Kanwa reported that due to type-98 high cost, PLA decided to adapt MBT-2000 chassic.
at first glance both chassic look same, but mbt-2000 use torsion bar,while type 98 use combine hydro-pneumatic suspension and torsion bar,which make the chassic much more expensive.
Chinese approach in some way very similiar to the Soviet experience with T-64.
T-64 chassic adapted a lot of new technology,like hydropneumatic suspension and new non metallic armour such as ceramic and fiber glass.but this make t-64 far more expensive.result is T-72 tank.which are cheaper than T-64

The PLA is one of the last militaries in the world to want for money. I think that using the MBT 2000 chassis would provide for a thicker glacis plate.

 

[montyp165]

Also, I don't think the PLA would want hydro-pneumatic suspensions, those need much more maintenance than a standard torsion bar setup. Simplicity makes more sense.

 

[challenge]

The PLA is one of the last militaries in the world to want for money. I think that using the MBT 2000 chassis would provide for a thicker glacis plate.

to date, only pakistan army adapt the MBT-2000.
MBT-2000 chassic is much lighter than type-98 chassic.and offer same armour protection.
other improvement,is tank commnader IIR sight,interneting,and active protection system,which i posted few days ago.

 

[SteelBird]

I don't think tanks can move under their own power without the tracks.

The driving wheel of a tank is off ground, that's why it is surely can't move under its own power without tracks. Another question is, does a tank has a hand-brake or does the hand-brake work without track? If no, it's quite dangerous to park a tank without track!

 

[crobato]

The driving wheel of a tank is off ground, that's why it is surely can't move under its own power without tracks. Another question is, does a tank has a hand-brake or does the hand-brake work without track? If no, it's quite dangerous to park a tank without track!

That's not correct. If you have a driving wheel its not going to work with tracks either, because tracks only point to one direction. Tanks do not have wheels that steer directionally. They steer instead by increasing the speed on one set of wheels over the other.

 

[challenge]

Also, I don't think the PLA would want hydro-pneumatic suspensions, those need much more maintenance than a standard torsion bar setup. Simplicity makes more sense.

type-98 chassic like the japanese type-90 tank chassic adapted hybrid solution.wheel no.1,2 and 5.6 uses hydro pneumatic,while wheels no 3 and 4 use torsion bar.
hydro peumatic offer smoother ride for the crews ,this prevent crews fatique.other advantge,fire-on the move for the gunner.

 

[Skywatcher]

Maybe they'll just switch to an all hydro pneumatic suspension system. If one pays for four axles to be hydro pneumatic, you might as well just pay for the other two as well.