New Type98/99 MBT thread
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PeoplesPoster
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Are they ERA or just spaced armor?
Hi guys so how good is the Chinese Type 99 tank armor ? i know it has Era armor and some other features i wanted to ask you guys cause thats the whole point of me being here nice to learn more info from more educated people on military hardware such as this
I don't think there's an exact RHA thickness number for the base armor, nor the exact specification of the ERA. It (called FY series, newest being the FY-4) is derived from the russian kontakt-5 family, which is very good, probably second only to the yet in-service armata and ukrainian BM-Oplot's ERA.
Accordingly the FY5 is already in service and uses new mechanisms.
Accordingly the FY5 is already in service.
The specs for the FY4 was to eliminate 30% of the shell's penetration.
Some information about the new generation ERAs:
(originally posted Dec 21, 2019)
2017年的兵器工业52研究所纪录片，首次展示了国产电磁装甲和自主创新的爆炸反应装甲。
“第一代反应装甲，相当于是在国外基础上发展，然后逐渐从第二代开始都是创新的东西，一直到现在是第五代。咱们都有专利，都获了奖，都获得了应用，这样一点一点达到了世界不能说是先进，而且是领先水平”——中国兵器工业集团首席专家 曹贺全。【图5-6】
【图2-3】国产电磁主动装甲防杆式穿甲弹实验，电磁装甲在弹药命中前提前引爆，增加弹靶作用时间，显著提高防护性能。
【图4-5】国产“三防”（防穿防破防串联）反应装甲防串联弹效果动画演示，双层楔形平板反应装甲搭配聚能反击弹，能够有效应付各种类型的反坦克弹药，国外目前没有见过相同原理的产品。（FY4研制出来到现在也块30年了，14年左右获准出口，现在原理也已经公开了）
【图8】新一代轻型坦克装甲方案，此处是原型车模型，15式应该也有差不多的配置。
【图9】第四代坦克相关。
Rough translation:
A documentary of the 52nd research institute of ordnance industries in 2017, first showing the domestic electromagnetic armor and the new self-developed ERA.
"The first generation of ERA was developed based on foreign designs, and from the 2nd gen on there were new innovations, until now the 5th gen. We all got patents, have all been awarded and our technologies applied, bit by bit becoming a leader in the world's ERA development." —— chief expert of Norinco, Cao Hequan
[Pictures 2-3] KE test of the domestic electromagnetic active armor, the armor explodes before the shell strikes, increasing time of contact between the shell and the target, dramatically improving the performance of protection.
[Pictures 4-5] Domestic "Triple defense (protection against KE, HEAT and tandem)" ERA module animated demonstration against a tandem HEAT shell, which uses dual-layered wedge-shaped-plate and Gathering-energy-effect counterattack modules, is able to deal with all types of anti tank munitions, and the mechanism of the product is exclusive to China. (FY4 has been fully developed for nearly 30 years, was allowed to export in roughly 2014, and the mechanism has already been uncovered.)
[Picture 8] Next gen light tank armor scheme, the picture shows a model of the prototype, similar specs are expected for the Type 15.
[Picture 9] Fourth gen tank related. (High power-density piston developed for the 4th gen)
This guy is an old member when concerning domestic tanks and according to him, had even seen the blueprint and some other details of the type 99. His informations are quite reliable.
It is now clear that FY5 is an existing product and has a high chance of being under service (he confessed it being used on the Type 15 in another post), and that FY4 uses a new exclusive mechanism.
I strongly recommend checking out his profile on weibo, if you can read chinese. There is still some information concerning Chinese tanks where i will choose to post and translate.
Some other reliable sources: (Chinese required) 重兵器吧 on baidu tieba, where a guy called Ilike磁能 also integrates some information on Chinese tanks. Obj-477 also releases some information here as well (the fact that 15 uses FY5 is released here).
I'm Chinese so I cant translate so well so you can ask me if you want.
(originally posted Dec 21, 2019)
2017年的兵器工业52研究所纪录片，首次展示了国产电磁装甲和自主创新的爆炸反应装甲。
“第一代反应装甲，相当于是在国外基础上发展，然后逐渐从第二代开始都是创新的东西，一直到现在是第五代。咱们都有专利，都获了奖，都获得了应用，这样一点一点达到了世界不能说是先进，而且是领先水平”——中国兵器工业集团首席专家 曹贺全。【图5-6】
【图2-3】国产电磁主动装甲防杆式穿甲弹实验，电磁装甲在弹药命中前提前引爆，增加弹靶作用时间，显著提高防护性能。
【图4-5】国产“三防”（防穿防破防串联）反应装甲防串联弹效果动画演示，双层楔形平板反应装甲搭配聚能反击弹，能够有效应付各种类型的反坦克弹药，国外目前没有见过相同原理的产品。（FY4研制出来到现在也块30年了，14年左右获准出口，现在原理也已经公开了）
【图8】新一代轻型坦克装甲方案，此处是原型车模型，15式应该也有差不多的配置。
【图9】第四代坦克相关。
Rough translation:
A documentary of the 52nd research institute of ordnance industries in 2017, first showing the domestic electromagnetic armor and the new self-developed ERA.
"The first generation of ERA was developed based on foreign designs, and from the 2nd gen on there were new innovations, until now the 5th gen. We all got patents, have all been awarded and our technologies applied, bit by bit becoming a leader in the world's ERA development." —— chief expert of Norinco, Cao Hequan
[Pictures 2-3] KE test of the domestic electromagnetic active armor, the armor explodes before the shell strikes, increasing time of contact between the shell and the target, dramatically improving the performance of protection.
[Pictures 4-5] Domestic "Triple defense (protection against KE, HEAT and tandem)" ERA module animated demonstration against a tandem HEAT shell, which uses dual-layered wedge-shaped-plate and Gathering-energy-effect counterattack modules, is able to deal with all types of anti tank munitions, and the mechanism of the product is exclusive to China. (FY4 has been fully developed for nearly 30 years, was allowed to export in roughly 2014, and the mechanism has already been uncovered.)
[Picture 8] Next gen light tank armor scheme, the picture shows a model of the prototype, similar specs are expected for the Type 15.
[Picture 9] Fourth gen tank related. (High power-density piston developed for the 4th gen)
This guy is an old member when concerning domestic tanks and according to him, had even seen the blueprint and some other details of the type 99. His informations are quite reliable.
It is now clear that FY5 is an existing product and has a high chance of being under service (he confessed it being used on the Type 15 in another post), and that FY4 uses a new exclusive mechanism.
I strongly recommend checking out his profile on weibo, if you can read chinese. There is still some information concerning Chinese tanks where i will choose to post and translate.
Some other reliable sources: (Chinese required) 重兵器吧 on baidu tieba, where a guy called Ilike磁能 also integrates some information on Chinese tanks. Obj-477 also releases some information here as well (the fact that 15 uses FY5 is released here).
I'm Chinese so I cant translate so well so you can ask me if you want.
Do you have a high-resolution image of this chart available including a translation into English ?