New Type98/99 MBT thread

[ChinaWall65]

i don't understand how the bustle mounted autoloader work...can someone explain it to me.

 

[darth sidious]

Thats funny. i never felt the type 99 was ever meant to be mass produced. It's rather expensive. The type 96 is the one the PLA has set for mass production, while the type 99 is produced in limited amounts for elite units. Since these units contain china's best tankers, why not protect them?

teh basic structure of the T-72 means they T-99 can be easily mass produced in terms of the labour requireed and general structure the T-99 is far more easy to produce then a Abrams. the structure difference bewten a T-96 and T-99 is very little. china because of her location can never afford to let her army down a soviet style conscript army is far more sutable to china then a western army.

the crew are gonners any ways if a APFSDS round pentrate the amrour why bother to add extra protection if they will only delay production. with a simplifyed tank more can be produced for less.

 

[Gollevainen]

i don't understand how the bustle mounted autoloader work...can someone explain it to me.

It means that the autoloader is in the turret bustle (in the rearside overhang of the turret) and not in the turret root like in soviet and chinese tanks. Bustle autoloaders are fitted in Japanese type-90 and French Lecler. Also Ukrainian modernised version of T-80 called T-84, have a version called T-84-120 or oblot which have western 120mm cannon and bustle autoloader.

 

[jackbh]

the crew are gonners any ways if a APFSDS round pentrate the amrour why bother to add extra protection if they will only delay production

That is why you want that extra protection and extra levels of armor so your tank won't be penetrated easily. And to say that the T-99 and Type 96 different in limited area is just not very accurate. In fact, the chasis of type 99 is quite different from type 96 I think.

 

[MIGleader]

The 99 has ERA, the 96 does not. The 99 has an laser jamming deivce, the 96 does not. The 99 has n uprated engine compared to the 96. Even the gun is different. The 99's chassis is derived from the t-72, the 96's is from the 85 programm. Quite similar, huh?

 

[darth sidious]

The 99 has ERA, the 96 does not. The 99 has an laser jamming deivce, the 96 does not. The 99 has n uprated engine compared to the 96. Even the gun is different. The 99's chassis is derived from the t-72, the 96's is from the 85 programm. Quite similar, huh?

whats your point !look at some pic then talk ERA can be easily sdded on the any tank engine can be chnaged so can the guns especialy if they are both 125mm guns

so your point is moot

 

[MIGleader]

But the pla decided not to put all these extra features on 96 to cut down on cost. So if tis going to make the 99 the "Best", it might aswell give it all good features of a tank, not just some.

 

[darth sidious]

But the pla decided not to put all these extra features on 96 to cut down on cost. So if tis going to make the 99 the "Best", it might aswell give it all good features of a tank, not just some.

you cant add blast panels because of the structure apart from that I dont see what else they can add

 

[King_Comm]

The 99's chassis is derived from the t-72, the 96's is from the 85 programm. Quite similar, huh?

==Type 99's chasis is not derived from T-72, Type-99's is longitudinally placed while T-72 has a latitudinally placed engine, and the chasis of Type 99 is one meter longer.

 

[Gollevainen]

The placement of the engine doesen't tell wheter some hull is derivated form another nor does the fact that its' 1 meter longer. It indicates that it's not direct copy, but doesen't rule out derivation. In fact the different engine placement is just tells that chinese have envolved the design.