New Speacial forces pictures

Well, there isn't enough infomation on the JS to make any judgement on it.
Nevertheless the longer barrel may improve accuracy at slightly longer range but not by much. Any improvement in longer accuracy without an increase in side could improve CQB capability in modern urban operteration as building and room nowaday can various in size greatly.

The longer barrel makes no difference in close quarter combat

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The barrel does make a difference in close quarter combat. For example the TMP which is widely consider very controllable and comfortable to fire, has a barrel lenght of 150mm and without a stock. Which we mean it a capable weapon within the 25 yard, though accuracy maybe comprise at that range or during high rate successive shots by a very small amount while the spread may help probability of hit at that range. Nevertheless, probaility of hit is normally is undesirable for any hostage rescue spealize, pin-point is what they need as probaility of hit also mean hitting the hostage.

Whereas the MP5 with a 225mm barrel, a trained personally can provide accuaracy pin point shot at 25 yard with little trouble. For my personally experience I found the MP5 very easy to handle at 25 - 50m with appropriate sighting you can achieve a very high level of accuarcy.

Comm'on guys, this thread is for photos, not the new SMGs. If you want to talk about the JS, open a new thread.
(Got some comments myself too.)

ahho said:

ah yes cutting the cost, this is a good enough reason for me .

on other note, do the chinese special force use domestic weapons only or do they use foreign weapons also??

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The PAP special police does use some western made weapons. I dont know how the Chinese managed to import them though(Mafia? ). If they can import guns, maybe they can import bullet proof armor too.

It's not a western bullpup rifle.
It's our own Snpier Rifle!

MIGleader said:

The PAP special police does use some western made weapons. I dont know how the Chinese managed to import them though(Mafia? ). If they can import guns, maybe they can import bullet proof armor too.

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The PAP Special Police units use domestic weapons such as Type 79 SMG and Type 95 assault rifle. They are more than self-sufficent in this area. As for body armour, Chinese armorers can manufacture the product at fraction of the cost as their U.S. counterpart, although inferior performance is expected.

New2u said:

It's not a western bullpup rifle.
It's our own Snpier Rifle!

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Type 88 is not considered a dedicated sniping system by most. It's more suited to provide accurate fire support for soldiers beyond 400m, much like Dragunov. I have yet to see a rifle similar to M-24 or L96 AW in PLA service.

pathfinder said:

The PAP Special Police units use domestic weapons such as Type 79 SMG and Type 95 assault rifle. They are more than self-sufficent in this area. As for body armour, Chinese armorers can manufacture the product at fraction of the cost as their U.S. counterpart, although inferior performance is expected.

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It is widely regarded as a fact that PAP units do use western made weapons.


proof beyond all doubt. I know pictures of PAP units with foreign guns are rare, but they indeed do use foreign weapons.

Chinese body armor is DRASTICALLY inferior to the u.s interceptor. the type 45 vest used by the PLA is rate to take only one shot, while the interceptor can take five spaced shots. The interceptor is also ony 16lbs, as opposed to the 45's 19Ibs. The only advantage i see in the 45 is cost, but putting living cost into the equation, it costs more in china than the interceptor would in america. ive heard the interceptor is more modular and comfortable aswell.

Chinese body armor is DRASTICALLY inferior to the u.s interceptor. the type 45 vest used by the PLA is rate to take only one shot, while the interceptor can take five spaced shots. The interceptor is also ony 16lbs, as opposed to the 45's 19Ibs. The only advantage i see in the 45 is cost, but putting living cost into the equation, it costs more in china than the interceptor would in america. ive heard the interceptor is more modular and comfortable aswell.

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This maybe for the most of PLA maybe, but for SOF and so crack troops it a different story. They use more advance body armor. But how advance I am not sure, but the plating they use are quite advance i can said this much. Anyway, it a common thing to see different unit using very differnet era of equiment within the same base, i have seen it with my own eyes. It quite funny to watch too.
But my answer is yes most of PLA grunt use inferior body armor.

Wait, doesn't China use the same armor suit that America have bought from China?

But would SOF use armor suits? They want speed.

Wait, didn't the US import a large number of Guardian God bullet vests from China? I don't know much about either the Interceptor or the God, but if the US did import Chinese vest (Steel Plate inserted) then I don't see why China's vest is inferior.

I don't recall reading about this, do you have the source? I know that the US bought some body armor for the Iraqi defense forces from Chinese manufacturers, but I'm not aware that they intend to use it themselves. Perhaps only for testing purposes?

Nethappy said:

This maybe for the most of PLA maybe, but for SOF and so crack troops it a different story. They use more advance body armor. But how advance I am not sure, but the plating they use are quite advance i can said this much. Anyway, it a common thing to see different unit using very differnet era of equiment within the same base, i have seen it with my own eyes. It quite funny to watch too.
But my answer is yes most of PLA grunt use inferior body armor.

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Most PLA grunt's only body armor is his helmet. The airborne and fist units may be issued with body armor (perhaps only flak jackets), but the bulk of the infantry (not to mention arty troops, non-frontline troops) only have their helmets.

Most PLA grunt's only body armor is his helmet. The airborne and fist units may be issued with body armor (perhaps only flak jackets), but the bulk of the infantry (not to mention arty troops, non-frontline troops) only have their helmets.

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Well not all PLA active grunt have body armor, but from my understanding they have been issue in certain unit base in some important area. Nevertheless, the base I have been visting (Can't said where, and dun bother asking!!! Job related sercet) are use heavy for logistic and procedure development. It should be area which has higher level of security, so I am not that sure about. As I need to be escorted in and out of the base.