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Re: chengdu super-10?

well, I really don't like the term super-10. It's phrased by the Russians. I think it just came from calling JF-17 "super-7". Basically, we know J-10 will be upgraded throughout its lifetime. Super-10 is probably referring to a large upgrade from the current J-10 to a J-10 with upgaded engine, weapon suite, airframe and electronics.
 
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Re: chengdu super-10?

According to this escript from the interview with the PAF Air Chief;

Q. What are the options available for PAF to enhance its fleet, and what new fighter types are expected to join PAF in the next five years?

Ans. As I have mentioned earlier, we are keeping all available options open and wants a well balanced multirole jet fighter aircraft. We will be inducting 18 new F-16C/Ds and most probably will use our option of 18 more after the first squadron will be operational. We will also be inducting 26 MLU F-16A/B as well as our existing fleet of 34 aircraft will also undergo the MLU upgrades. 150 JF-17 Thunders and 36 F-10A aircraft will also be joining PAF, and more F-10s can be expected. Most probably we will also purchase FC-20 fighter aircraft from China
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Air Chief Marshall Tanvir Mahmood Ahmad very clearly differentiates J-10A from "FC-20"; what could FC-20 possibly be? Going along with the PAF's new habit of trying to keep things as common as possible - could it be a new version of J-10?
 
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the latest on J-10's EW suite from PLA's newspaper.
I would like to translate this, but it gets a little too technical for me.
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中国新型战机首次亮相对抗复杂电磁袭扰(组图)
本报讯易晓阳、记者谭洁报道：金秋戈壁，万籁俱寂。9月底，空军某训练基地复杂电磁环境下对抗演练在这里展开。飞行员刘巍驾驶某新型战机刚起飞，空地通讯因受电磁干扰突然中断，机载报警器上数排警示灯同时闪亮。有着10多年驾龄的刘巍，第一次遇到这样复杂的电磁干扰环境，立刻有了实战的感觉。

　　空地立体互动，全程实施袭扰，电子对抗激烈。某新型战机首次亮相演练场，参演部

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队与空地目标进行大规模电磁对抗，一批电磁干扰环境下的新战法通过检验……诸多事实表明，该基地训练手段实现了由一般条件向复杂电磁干扰环境的转变。

　　“没有逼真的战场环境，很难获取实战的经验。”在战场数据不断刷新的大屏幕前，基地王司令员告诉记者，为设置复杂逼真的战场环境，基地在空军有关部门支持下，构建了
信息化训练平台，建起了电子战训练场，以提高部队在强电磁袭扰下的作战能力。

　　记者在演练现场看到，虽没有硝烟弥漫，没有炮声隆隆，但静谧的“无形战场”却进行着更为复杂和激烈的电磁干扰与反干扰——空中战机与地面对抗设施相结合，各种有源和无源电子发射装备相结合，雷达干扰与通信干扰相结合……模拟“敌”复杂电磁干扰状态下的防空体系，使战斗更加激烈和精彩。电磁在空地间密集穿梭，荧屏上杀机四伏。地面防空兵、雷达兵和通信兵等部队正在进行激烈的空地互动电子对抗，监测评估系统对空地电磁环境实时监控，并进行量化分析和评判胜负。

　　“信息化的训练手段使战斗力的生成模式发生巨变，仅电子战训练场就可为飞行员提供相当于20次以上的实战经验。”据空军军训部门有关专家介绍，此次演练运用信息化手段整合训练资源，提升了训练质量和效益，催生了一批新训法、战法，推进了训练手段向更高层次发展。

　　相关链接

　　电子战训练场

　　电子战是继陆战、空战、海战之后的第四维战场。电子战训练场是信息化条件下军事训练的一个重要平台，为部队提供真实的训练环境，进行逼真的对抗训练；使部队能迅速有效地收集、分析和评估训练效果，提高训练效益。

　　目前，世界各国都十分重视电子战训练场建设，美、英、法、俄等大国加大对电子战训练场的投入，不断改进训练手段。一些发展中国家也在努力增强本国的电子战实力，在加速研制、改进和完善电子战装备和手段的同时，加紧建立电子战训练场，对部队进行严格的电子战训练。
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Piercing the dragon veils by John Golan " Combat Aircraft"
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"J-10 Biggest weakness,aside from navigation and targeting sensor,was Chinese aircraft industries inability to fabricate large composite material for aircraft,substitute it with aluminum,this raise doubt if J-10 ever out turn F-16C ,or JXX program"
 
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F-16C doesn't use that much composite either, much of the composite there goes to the surfaces like the wings. The same should go with the J-10. With JSF and F-22 there is more composite used in the structural level, especially with the JSF.

Nothing wrong with it. I don't thrust composite either when it comes to long term structural integrity.
 
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crobato said:
F-16C doesn't use that much composite either, much of the composite there goes to the surfaces like the wings. The same should go with the J-10. With JSF and F-22 there is more composite used in the structural level, especially with the JSF.

Nothing wrong with it. I don't thrust composite either when it comes to long term structural integrity.
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I suggest you either buy the latest issue of Combat Aircraft magazine or open the link.the article written John Golan was highly informative.
China aircraft industries to date able to fabricate small composite material for tail fin or rudder.by contrast ,the entire Lavi upper fuselage was fabricate from single large pieces of composite material in Grueman plant in long island.
JH-7A according to the report from Chinese magazine also use composite material in tail fin,rudder and some minor part of the aircraft ,saving more than 500+ lbs weight.
In this area of technology,the US is way ahead of europe ,russia and israel.
 
AssassinsMace

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That article is already posted in this forum. And many people here and in other forums have noted incorrect information in the article.
 
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