New J-10 thread II
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Grudging Respect
It appears as if the J-10, and the PLAAF are slowly earning the respect of their neighbors and peers.
In a recent interview with US Lt. Gen. Loyd S. Utterback, commander of 13th Air Force (responsible for the US Pacific Theatre of Operations), the American general was asked about his impressions of the J-10. He responded that, "As a fighter pilot, that's not the airplane I want to go up against."
It appears as if the J-10, and the PLAAF are slowly earning the respect of their neighbors and peers.
In a recent interview with US Lt. Gen. Loyd S. Utterback, commander of 13th Air Force (responsible for the US Pacific Theatre of Operations), the American general was asked about his impressions of the J-10. He responded that, "As a fighter pilot, that's not the airplane I want to go up against."
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How did he come to know so much of the J-10 as to be so confident of giving such a statement? He might be just blowing smoke and was not serious about it. Anyhow, my personal opinion is that they should have better sources of intelligence than people like us who rely almost entirely on the internet for information.
How did he come to know so much of the J-10 as to be so confident of giving such a statement? He might be just blowing smoke and was not serious about it. Anyhow, my personal opinion is that they should have better sources of intelligence than people like us who rely almost entirely on the internet for information.
AssassinsMace
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Pinkov's latest... Remember his story stating that China's selling J-10s to Iran? Well now he's backtracked to a question mark.
I do not think that is has HMS option. The only possible part that might be intresting is the stru for NVG attachment. For the rest it is exact the same as the helmet I have in my collection.
One particular thing that suprises me is that the pilot actually is much taller then expected. You guys probablt read about the wingpoint is not fitted with rails cause it might be difficult to attach weapons without loading equipment. Knowing how easy it is to attach aim9 on outer stations it would be strange to hear that J10 would be more difficult. So why is there no wingtip rail? The J10 has musltiple body attachments, yet the most easy one is not there.
And is there a possibility to alter the main gear so that it retracts into the lerx/wing? That way one can add 3/4 BVR's into the body like they did on EF2000 and Gripen NG.
One particular thing that suprises me is that the pilot actually is much taller then expected. You guys probablt read about the wingpoint is not fitted with rails cause it might be difficult to attach weapons without loading equipment. Knowing how easy it is to attach aim9 on outer stations it would be strange to hear that J10 would be more difficult. So why is there no wingtip rail? The J10 has musltiple body attachments, yet the most easy one is not there.
And is there a possibility to alter the main gear so that it retracts into the lerx/wing? That way one can add 3/4 BVR's into the body like they did on EF2000 and Gripen NG.
You have to ask yourself why the F-15 does not have an air tip rail either. In fact, similar to the J-10, both aircraft have rounded wing tips.
The reason for this is that the wing with the wingtip rail is actually a clipped wing. The wing could have extended further beyond the rail, increasing wing area, and turning that point into a under hung hard point. If you extend the lines of the F-16's wing's forward edge and the back edge until both lines meet, you will that it forms a delta.
As for the helmet, attachments like those were meant to hold HMS. I've seen enough of the same attachment on helmets for Su-27 pilots.
The reason for this is that the wing with the wingtip rail is actually a clipped wing. The wing could have extended further beyond the rail, increasing wing area, and turning that point into a under hung hard point. If you extend the lines of the F-16's wing's forward edge and the back edge until both lines meet, you will that it forms a delta.
As for the helmet, attachments like those were meant to hold HMS. I've seen enough of the same attachment on helmets for Su-27 pilots.
The reason F15 does not need wingtip rails is the simple fact that it already has that many stations on the belly (4bvr) and it can handle also 4 on the first wingpylons (even bvr)... So why adding so many wepoals if you can use only few? It would be intresting question if you ask why Mirage 2000 doens't have wingtip rails.
But if you caount number of BVR on J10 then you would do anything to have some more... Normally it has 2 BVR with fuel tanks and if uprated you end up with 4 but a lot less range. F15 is an old design. I used gripen as an example. So why don't you compare more current designs?
About the helmet. I still doubt that it is HMS cause you do not want to have heavy weight on front of your head mass. It is the usual one with the usual attachment for NVG. HMS needs more then the very old simple chin strap and I miss all the wiring and sensors you need for HMS...
But if you caount number of BVR on J10 then you would do anything to have some more... Normally it has 2 BVR with fuel tanks and if uprated you end up with 4 but a lot less range. F15 is an old design. I used gripen as an example. So why don't you compare more current designs?
About the helmet. I still doubt that it is HMS cause you do not want to have heavy weight on front of your head mass. It is the usual one with the usual attachment for NVG. HMS needs more then the very old simple chin strap and I miss all the wiring and sensors you need for HMS...
Londo Molari
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I don't think J-10 is in need of more pylons. It already has what, 9 hardpoints? And they have just come out with the new attachment that lets you put 3 missiles on a single pylon. It was showcased on a JH-7A recently.
J-10 may look like Eurofighter, but it is not in that weight class. Eurofighter and Rafale are actually medium-heavy fighters, given their weight and max payload/thrust. Thats why they can afford to put pylons everywhere and strap on some more weapons. They can lift a lot. J-10 is in F-16's weight class, light-medium. That means you don't usually go over 9 hardpoints.
J-10 may look like Eurofighter, but it is not in that weight class. Eurofighter and Rafale are actually medium-heavy fighters, given their weight and max payload/thrust. Thats why they can afford to put pylons everywhere and strap on some more weapons. They can lift a lot. J-10 is in F-16's weight class, light-medium. That means you don't usually go over 9 hardpoints.
Why would you need night vision for an air superiority fighter? Plus, are NVG's lighter than HMS?
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