New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

jwnz

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What do folks here make of Electric Vikings expose on BYD Atto3 cars developing possible serious rust problems after a few months.
I've read that the MG 4 sold in the UK also has rust issues too. Chinese car manufacturers really need to up their game in rust prevention.

As someone has asked, is it true that the majority of Chinese made cars sold domestically in China are not galvanised? If so, that seems bad. Does galvanising cost a lot in car manufacturing?
 

pevade

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I've read that the MG 4 sold in the UK also has rust issues too. Chinese car manufacturers really need to up their game in rust prevention.

As someone has asked, is it true that the majority of Chinese made cars sold domestically in China are not galvanised? If so, that seems bad. Does galvanising cost a lot in car manufacturing?
The source of the Chinese made cars that are sold domestically are not galvanized is from some indian organization, so I would take that with a truckload of salt.
 

sndef888

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Other than the famous Moskvitch it seems another Russian car brand (Avtotor) is rebadging Chinese cars

Russian carmaker Avtotor on Monday said it has begun production of Chinese Kaiyi cars at its plant in Kaliningrad, Russia's exclave on the Baltic coast.

The company said in a statement that it's preparing to start sales of the Kaiyi model E5 early this year and launch production of another three models by the end of the year.

Chinese brands have become major players in Russia's car market, reflecting China's growing importance to the Russian economy following the exodus of Western companies over Moscow's decision to send troops into Ukraine last February.

Avtotor, which previously assembled German BMW and South Korean Hyundai and Kia brands, also has agreements with two other Chinese automakers. It plans to produce around 50,000 cars in 2023, Anton Alikhanov, the Kaliningrad regional governor, said in December.

China's influence is being felt elsewhere in the car market. JAC Motors' design, engineering and platform are being used to revive the Soviet-era Moskvich, production of which began late last year.
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Edit: possibly BAIC and Dongfeng too
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Lethe

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The source of the Chinese made cars that are sold domestically are not galvanized is from some indian organization, so I would take that with a truckload of salt.

Wading through some links.

Stories (including cited by Cadogan) emerge in
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conducted by IIT Bombay and representatives from the International Zinc Association, which seems to be an industry association devoted to advocating the wonders of Zinc. The studies themselves are focused on India, but in the popular press quotes asserting low rates of use of galvanised steel in China's automotive sectors are sourced from authors from the IZA.

The IZA naturally has a vested interest in promoting the use of Zinc and identifying future growth markets, but would not seem to have anything to gain from downplaying the use of galvanised steels in China's automotive sector. The IZA has a "Galvanized Autobody Partnership" program that lists
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Chinese steel manufacturers as members.

I suspect the major problem with the assertion is that it is simply outdated. As we all know, things change fast in China.

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2016 article explicitly links good future prospects for Zinc to a growing appetite for galvanized steels in China's automotive sector.)
 
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