New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

Wrought

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Do we know which countries actually voted against? News articles don't seem to be mentioning it

IN FAVOUR:
* Italy
* France
* Poland
* Netherlands
* Ireland
* Latvia
* Lithuania
* Estonia
* Bulgaria
* Denmark

AGAINST:
* Germany
* Hungary
* Malta
* Slovenia
* Slovakia

ABSTAIN:
* Belgium
* Croatia
* Czech Republic
* Greece
* Spain
* Cyprus
* Luxembourg
* Austria
* Portugal
* Romania
* Sweden
* Finland

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antiterror13

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A ban on French and Italian wine will reverse their decisions.

but the suffer will at least for 5 years and at the time other will fill the market in China ... it is very hard to get in once you lost the market in China ... I think it is probably a good news for Australia and NZ

A question to you guys whether individual country can make their own policy against the EU decision?
 

tphuang

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Eventine

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China should hit back with tariffs the countries who voted for and abstained. It doesn't need to be against cars cause this will hit the countries where automotive is big, and which voted against the tariffs such as Germany, Slovakia and Hungary

I think it should be some useless overpriced crap, such as luxury brands -> It will hit particularly France and Italy or, and agriculture it would hit Poland, Spain and the baltic triple Chihuahua
If you want to split the EU, which should be in China's interest, retaliation will need to hit the EU as a whole. Otherwise, countries like Germany will keep on acting like they're the nice guys to avoid Chinese retaliation, while reaping the benefits of EU protectionism. Exemptions should only be made for countries that subvert the new EU rules.

Retaliate against the whole block. And let the EU members fight among themselves over how their national economies are suffering due to other countries in the EU voting for.
 
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antiterror13

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If you want to split the EU, which should be in China's interest, retaliation will need to hit the EU as a whole. Otherwise, countries like Germany will keep on acting like they're the nice guys to avoid Chinese retaliation, while reaping the benefits of EU protectionism. Exemptions should only be made for countries that subvert the new EU rules.

Retaliate against the whole block. And let the EU members fight among themselves over how their national economies are suffering due to other countries in the EU voting for.

Would be interesting if Germany left EU ;)
 

Lethe

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Sales of Chinese brand vehicles in Australia, plus Tesla, with brand rank, for the month of September and also YTD:

September:
MG: 3841 sales, #8, down 29%
GWM: 3802 sales, #9, up 31%
Tesla: 2649 sales, #13, down 49%
BYD: 1826 sales, #15, up 160%
Chery: 1268 sales, #18, up 103%
LDV: 1104 sales, #19, down 34%

YTD:
MG: 36,096 sales, #8, down 16%
GWM: 31,793 sales, #10, up 23%
Tesla: 30,750 sales, #12, down 19%
BYD: 15,181 sales, #16, up 74%
LDV: 12,499 sales, #18, down 22%
Chery: 7508 sales, #22, up 106%*

* This growth percentage is artificially inflated as Chery was not present in Australia in Q1 2023.

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Despite the mixed bag of results here, I think it is worth noting that there are now two Chinese brands in Australia's Top 10 on both a monthly and YTD basis, something that would've been unthinkable even five years ago.

MG's sales drop can be attributed chiefly to both increased competition from GWM and Chery, and also a changeover period for several of its leading models, such as the new MG3 which has been reasonably
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but also comes with a price increase, which is significant for a brand that to date has largely sold on price. MG has recently floated the idea of bringing in a
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, which is noteworthy because it would blur the lines between MG and LDV in Australia, where both are SAIC brands, the latter operating via a third-party distributor. Tesla is evidently struggling this year, but deliveries to Australia remain highly variable month-to-month so I wouldn't put too much weight on the September figure specifically.

BYD is clearly having a good year, and that has been turbocharged
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. SL6 is BYD's first PHEV here and has become both the brand's #1 model locally as well as the best-selling PHEV in the country, ahead of Mitsubishi Outlander, though the latter remains
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courtesy of a six month head start. BYD will be hoping that its PHEV success continues with Shark from early 2025.
 
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