New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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That isn't the point. The point is that US companies can sell cars in the Chinese market. Even if it with a joint venture. But they aren't going to allow China any reciprocity so that it can sell to the US market.
This needs to be penalized in some way.
Maybe in Europe. It remains to be seen. But in the US they are preventing Chinese car companies from building car factories there. There are rumors the US even coerced the government of Mexico not to grant to BYD the benefits they usually hand out for car companies to setup there.
It seems the US doesn't even care about potential reciprocal bans on US brands in China anymore. Chinese makers need to build more gaga-factories in Europe, South East Asia and South America, for the purpose of encircling the US market.
There are already Chinese cars selling in the US market (Polestar, Volvo S90, Nautilus, Envision etc).
Personally I see in the future multiple Chinese brands entering into joint ventures for the US market, and as long as the factories are in the US (and maybe Mexico via the NAFTA), the cars are not going to be banned. We will have to see.
Taiyuan heavy industry group is putting 25t methanol powered crane truck into action. Also working on 55t crane truck. It remains to be seen if methanol powered vehicles will make further in road
you can't really effectively sanction China in auto industry. In here, SemiDrive managed to achieve equivalent performance to SD8295 using 16nm node produced SoC here in X9CC
you can't really effectively sanction China in auto industry. In here, SemiDrive managed to achieve equivalent performance to SD8295 using 16nm node produced SoC here in X9CC
so many BYD models coming out, it's pretty crazy just how frequently they are launching new models this year
That might happen if Trump takes over. He's not very idealistic and won't care if Chinese companies help create American jobs by entering into JVs to build cars in America.
FriedRiceNSpice
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Simply tell Chinese firms (without doing it publicly) to stop expanding or entering into new JVs with US automakers and instead encourage JVs with Korean, German, and other European automakers. Gradually exclude US companies from benefiting from Chinese market and promote and encourage closer cooperation and integration with other countries.
BYD Shark in 2 days
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Huawei's unmanned driving solutions used in Zinc mining
BYD getting into Middle Eastern market in a big way
Huawei's unmanned driving solutions used in Zinc mining
US chip companies probably got 30-40% of their sales from chinese companies. That didn't stop US from banning exports to China.
Huawei was significantly better and cheaper than its competitors, Ericksson also sold a lot of equipment in China. That didn't stop Europeans from banning Huawei. They didn't care about any of those.
We need to understand that we are in a new cold war with one side being europeans and their settler colonies such as US, a group of countries who have dominated the world for the last 3 centuries and do not know anything else other than domination. These people are scared shitless about the rise of China. This is a totally new experience for them. They will stop at nothing to stop China's growth.
German branded cars made in China and also sold in China? Its simply nothing compared to Chinese cars being sold in Europe or US. They will sacrifice in a heart bit. Moreover, China has shown many times, that it simply does not retalite to western sanctions and bans. They might do one or two symbolic actions but they have never taken any substantial actions against them.
Why? Cause China wants to get rich and wants to use US and European markets to make money for as long as possible. They also want US and European investments in China to fuel their growth. China is a rising power, it has less to lose. While US and Europe feel they are losing their way of life of dominating the world. They are desperate and willing to do anything to stop it.
Old ways of thinking using cost and benefit doesn't work when one of the opponents are scared. Europeans and Americans are scared. They will do anything to stop China. No matter the cost.
I have one rule when thinking about the new cold war. Whatever extreme moves anti-China hawks in US and Europe think about, no matter how outlandish or costly it might be, it will happen, guaranteed. Cause there is no one pushing back those ideas. Every single year, more politicians get even more anti-China, the public in the west also get more anti-China. Its just not going to stop. Even Iron Curtain 2.0 is most likely in the future.
Think about how China and Japan blocked contact with all foreigners just to preserve their way of life 3 centuries ago. This is what a dominant culture does when it faces something new that it does not understand. US and EU will completely close themselves off if necessary just to stop Chinese influence.
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