New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

BYD is an official partner of Euro 2024


Tesla is cutting prices in China. They can still cut a lot more


T5DM deliveries have already started. Apparently, this is quite popular in the RV community


BYD is supplying batteries to Sinotruk

siegecrossbow said:

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The more "lessons" I read like this from the western media, the more I am convinced that the Chinese NEVs are leaving the western auto industries further and further behind. Billion-consumer-scale infrastructure investment and industry incubation requires long-term planning and coherent execution, which are the top 2 principles for those MBA/EMBA programs to pontificate about how to groom CEOs. But the same principles are antithesis to the governing inertia of all western governments today. There is no hope ...

YangWang U7, reminds me a little bit of the Seal:




2023 and 2024 have turned out to be the years of battery swap. So far, the following automakers have formed battery swap alliance with NIO:

• Geely (one of the largest private automakers in China)
• Changan (one of the largest auto-making SOE, one of the three automakers directly administered by the central government)
• Chery (SOE)
• JAC (SOE)

4Runner said:

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I think there is still hope for the West. It just won't come right now, or anytime soon.

With all these protectionist measures, it is a complete role reversal from the Cold War.

In very general terms, the West was efficient, and the USSR was inefficient.

With these trade wars initiated by the West, to promote local industry (that cannot compete with China), clearly who is less efficient or inefficient is kind obvious.

That is unimaginable to the West, that a communist country is more efficient than them. Hehe. Hehe.

I think in the long run, the West probably can snap out of it, maybe. But as we know what Keynes said, in the long run we are all dead.

Enjoy life today!

4Runner said:

The more "lessons" I read like this from the western media, the more I am convinced that the Chinese NEVs are leaving the western auto industries further and further behind. Billion-consumer-scale infrastructure investment and industry incubation requires long-term planning and coherent execution, which are the top 2 principles for those MBA/EMBA programs to pontificate about how to groom CEOs. But the same principles are antithesis to the governing inertia of all western governments today. There is no hope ...

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A lot of the lessons are super obvious though. Next thing you know they’d be running articles like “Shocker, Chinese ICBMs not filled with water” and “Using solid rocket propellant to cook hotpot would result in serious injuries”.

supercat said:

YangWang U7, reminds me a little bit of the Seal:

2023 and 2024 have turned out to be the years of battery swap. So far, the following automakers have formed battery swap alliance with NIO:

• Geely (one of the largest private automakers in China)
• Changan (one of the largest auto-making SOE, one of the three automakers directly administered by the central government)
• Chery (SOE)
• JAC (SOE)

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Finally, a Chinese EV that looks both cool *and* distinctive. (A lot of the sedans are Tesla-esque, and even the YangWang U8 is -- in terms of styling -- essentially a Land Rover Defender with different detailing.) Admittedly, I haven't been tracking all the various Sino-EV species and subspecies, but this is the first time I've seen a vehicle on this thread whose looks made me go: "Woah!"

future BYD model with hand scanning as key. interesting, huh?


I did some math on PCTC and how it affects BYD's shipping cost to Europe. I think it lowers it quite a bit


BYD sales in Japan is still low but it is growing nicely. about 1/4 of Tesla's sales in Japan for December


huge win for BYD ESS in Spain

siegecrossbow said:

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Tesla has a head start, but GM, Ford, and Stellantis have poured billions into their respective efforts to catch up.

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This first paragraph is already pretty retarded. Tesla itself is doing some catching up in the Chinese EV market, and they are talking about GM, Ford and... sTeLLanTis. Tesla, if not for the Chinese market, and its Shanghai Gigafactory, could be out of business by now. America don't actually want you to switch to EVs.

Shaolian said:

This first paragraph is already pretty retarded. Tesla itself is doing some catching up in the Chinese EV market, and they are talking about GM, Ford and... sTeLLanTis. Tesla, if not for the Chinese market, and its Shanghai Gigafactory, could be out of business by now. America don't actually want you to switch to EVs.

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Funnily enough, the more I look at it the more it seems like the USA is going to be one of the least affected by climate change. Sure there's going to potentially be flooding in Florida, more droughts and so on, but the majority lives on the East coast which isn't majorly affected. Meanwhile Europe gets run over by the AMOC stopping, India by the screwed up Indian Monsoon, South America/Africa by the Sahara-Amazon interaction. Maybe that's why the US doesn't really care about switching off of ICEs anymore.