New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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It makes sense if you think of it as the car being a giant phone accessory that can move you places, kind of like a personal ride share, rather than an extra phone you don’t need with a car purchase. They’re trying to lock you into an OS that comes with the car and let your infotainment system detach and come with you.
All the ICE car manufactures share the same basic OBD II computer core code. Certain ones customize them to their liking.
What goes beneath auto os, I have not looked into, but all the major automakers have their own os layer that they took time to develop. I assume it's all some form of real time os. and they do this because, they want to have control over their product.
All the app ecosystem like apple carplay & hicar are supported on top of that.
The auto os also allows automakers to control their interaction with all the different sensors, power management, control chips, communication node, battery management chips and such. You don't want to just give that away.
All the app ecosystem like apple carplay & hicar are supported on top of that.
The auto os also allows automakers to control their interaction with all the different sensors, power management, control chips, communication node, battery management chips and such. You don't want to just give that away.
Byd han leads the b& c class sedan sales in china
Fyi, byd uses a cockpit soc it collaborated on with Qualcomm. I assume this is with the end goal of developing it's own cockpit chip, but who knows.
Fyi, byd uses a cockpit soc it collaborated on with Qualcomm. I assume this is with the end goal of developing it's own cockpit chip, but who knows.
For the consumer facing OS, you can't really leverage a Car entertainment OS into a smartphone tablet OS. The amount of time you spend interfacing with your car vs. your phone isn't even comparable. Not to mention, far more people own phones than cars.
On top of that, the car interface is so fundamentally different from a phone interface. Even between phone and tablet there is no longer a "universal OS", at least in terms of interface.
If you are talking about the bones/underlying architecture, almost everything is using some Unix/Linux/Android variant anyway.
NIO Phone looks like another automaker attempt to find new sources of subscription revenue. BMW was already trying this by making people "subscribe" to heated seats (and recently they announced they would give up on it). Tesla is the closest in which you can pay for some pieces of software like Autopilot later on. People are changing phones quite regularly, so they will try to hitch onto that bandwagon (or at least as a dry run).
IMO, the car has the same limitations as other devices that people have tried to make "smart" (Oven, refrigerator, etc.). The functionality is difficult to adapt to other use cases. When you're driving, you're supposed to be focused on driving (big surprise!), you can't (or at least shouldn't) really spend time ordering pizza or watching movies. If autonomy can improve in the future, then you might have more use cases (ie. literal mobile office) and thus improve subscription opportunities (cloud storage, 5G hotspot, etc.)
looks like byd dolphin is about to be launched in Japan soon
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For some reason BYD is making 2 versions of Dolphin, one for the European and Australian markets and on for the rest. This probably makes the manufacturing less cost-effective.
European/Australian version of Dolphin:
Chinese/rest of the world version of Dolphin:
Currently, EU and their legacy automakers are not necessarily worried about China's EVs per se, because of their relatively minor market share at the moment. However, they have started to worry about China's EV supply chain.
On the other hand, global demand for Chinese cars is real.