Ewww they are ugly AF. Having actual models handing out ice cream would have been good.
New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China
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^^^ Actually, VW is developing their software in China.
To be fair, many hardcore offroad electric SUVs are boxy-looking with slightly different proportions of horizontal and vertical lines. From top to bottom: Rivian R1S, Mercedes EQG, GMC Hummer, Jeep Moab 4xe, and Scout (VW Group) electric SUV 2026 Concept
It seems that South Korea's legacy automakers are done in China.
The current situation about China's auto market (click the link to see English translation):
David P Goldman talks about China's EV industry and beyond.
To be fair, many hardcore offroad electric SUVs are boxy-looking with slightly different proportions of horizontal and vertical lines. From top to bottom: Rivian R1S, Mercedes EQG, GMC Hummer, Jeep Moab 4xe, and Scout (VW Group) electric SUV 2026 Concept
It seems that South Korea's legacy automakers are done in China.
The current situation about China's auto market (click the link to see English translation):
David P Goldman talks about China's EV industry and beyond.
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Info about N7 battery pack and range now available. I was actually hoping for larger battery packs than this. They need to get faster chargers into production too. Byd is falling behind in charging technology.
Also, wrote my view on Li Auto today
I think it will be very successful long term. I'm a late comer, but now I'm a believer in their product
Watch this video about L9
I think it will be very successful long term. I'm a late comer, but now I'm a believer in their product
Watch this video about L9
It's actually rather sad that companies need to do "sensitivity training" so that Chinese employees do not discriminate against other Chinese.
For this to have happened, the national culture must have went seriously wrong for a time.
Fortunately, it seems the situation is improving, and incidents like this actually help prevent the perpetuation of attitudes like those demonstrated by the two women, since now other PR departments will get the message that white worship in China is not appropriate behavior and will be punished.
I also think if this happened 20-30 years ago, and people started getting angry about it, the government would've just contained and censored it, so that it didn't affect business.
Today, with companies like BMW needing China more than China needs BMW, it seems there was no attempt at damage control at all from the government. This is a positive sign that white privilege is not what it was.
ouch
Nissan and other Japanese auto are basically finished. no interest
German automakers are doing not so bad even after the ice cream incident.
obviously BYD & its high end brands are popular. Looks like XPeng is doing better than I expected and same with Zeekr. Obvious LiAuto基本上媒体日就已经呈现这样的局面了。除了比亚迪，腾势和仰望之外。就属理想，小鹏和极氪的看车的人多了。
今天逛了一天的上海车展，大家可以看看人流量的对比:
图一:3馆的智己的飞凡，人流量尚可，基本上都是新能源
图二:7.2馆的日产，完全没有人，按照这个态势今年日产就真的有可能成为第一个倒下的头部合资了![[摊手]](https://face.t.sinajs.cn/t4/appstyle/expression/ext/normal/62/2018new_tanshou_org.png "[摊手]")
图三:5.1馆大众id展台，围观的人不少，还是有不少的人去看最好的合资新能源
图四图五六:6.1馆的小鹏和极氪，明显G6给小鹏带来了整个展馆堪比理想的Top2人流，排队看G6要40分钟，限时3分钟看完。同时极氪x也非常多人看
图七:自主品牌这次整体人流比合资都高了一个档次，吉利的人流堪比奥迪，奇瑞人流外溢到标致雪铁龙了（忘记拍照了）![[允悲]](https://face.t.sinajs.cn/t4/appstyle/expression/ext/normal/83/2018new_kuxiao_org.png "[允悲]")
图八九十十一:比亚迪绝对是人流最多的地方，整个7.1馆就是比亚迪占了绝大多数，人流甚至带动隔壁零跑的人也不错了，仰望人就更多了，展方大喇叭播放通道人流大，休息脚下舒畅老师那里有视频可以看看，多到恐怖![[衰]](https://face.t.sinajs.cn/t4/appstyle/expression/ext/normal/a2/2018new_shuai_org.png "[衰]")
图十二:封口浪尖上的mini，貌似也没啥影响，就是周围有记者想采访
总体来说， 少军老师说的社会心态的大转变真的已经在以迅雷不及掩耳之势发生，很多合资的朋友真的是非常焦虑没有好产品。如果按照这个态势下去2024就能看到头部合资的大溃败了。
Nissan and other Japanese auto are basically finished. no interest
German automakers are doing not so bad even after the ice cream incident.
Apparently large Russian contingent at Shanghai motor show
With more products coming to Russia, view toward Chinese products are turning around.
Also, Chinese companies don't want to promote their accomplishment in Russia. Especially the ones like BYD with ambitions in Western markets. It's the ones that are struggling like Chery that are most invested in Russia.
Basically, Russians still don't really have respect for Chinese products, but they have no other choice right now, so they have to bring cars in from somewhere and China is it. Russia is also a really luxurious market.
With more products coming to Russia, view toward Chinese products are turning around.
Also, Chinese companies don't want to promote their accomplishment in Russia. Especially the ones like BYD with ambitions in Western markets. It's the ones that are struggling like Chery that are most invested in Russia.
I think part of the reason many SUVs look the same is because they're big. So even pretty big dimension differences look small. Compare that to sedans where length and height differences look very obvious.^^^ Actually, VW is developing their software in China.
To be fair, many hardcore offroad electric SUVs are boxy-looking with slightly different proportions of horizontal and vertical lines. From top to bottom: Rivian R1S, Mercedes EQG, GMC Hummer, Jeep Moab 4xe, and Scout (VW Group) electric SUV 2026 Concept
Same goes for front face styling. SUV front faces are just so forgettable because they're too large and end up being either too complicated or too plain.
For some reason Geely isn't afraid of sanctions despite a massive chunk of their revenue coming from the west via volvo
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