Mystery aircraft 4th August 2025: CCA vs other

mack8

Junior Member
I agree with the general thrust of your argument, but AFAIK there is no evidence that China wrapped up its 6th gen X-plane fly-off/competition in 2018-2019. The one
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we have of a likely Chinese 6th gen demonstrator was taken in 2021, around the same time the U.S. X-planes first flew.

IMO, the most likely scenario is that China's programs simply progressed faster into the EMD phase than their U.S. equivalents.
I don't recall seeing the picture of the mystery CAC plane including the J-20 for reference. It appears to be smaller than the J-20, if it was a 6th gen demonstrator it was then more like a subscale one, at least compared to the J-36. However, what are the chances this is the CAC Little Leaf CCA, that we can see in the parade pics? Taking part in the parade meaning it's close to or in actual service, having it fly in 2021 or even earlier would certainly make sense. What you guys think?
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lcloo

Major
Well, I’m Italian, so I deal with the Italian and Western press. Many say that China’s new next-generation fighter jets are just propaganda stunts meant to steer public opinion into thinking that China is ahead. But in reality, the Chinese would actually be behind, especially in key technologies (engines, etc.). Meanwhile, the United States, calmly and methodically, is developing the F-47—essentially building a kind of ultimate fighter jet.

Do you agree with this view? To me, it would seem like a rather foolish strategy for China to show off muscles it doesn’t really have—it would only serve to unite its adversaries and push them to invest more. It reminds me of the MiG-25: its modern-looking appearance at the time spurred the Americans to commit heavily to the F-15.

I don’t know—this all feels like a form of Western propaganda to me, the kind that says: “Don’t worry, we’re still ahead,” complete with glossy graphics and flashy presentations.
You have been around since 2005, you should know better. 20 years on this forum you should have learn a lot.
 
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