My preparations for the WeChat ban...

AndrewS said:

I think the answer is complicated.

Wechat Pay is going to be more difficult to download and use.
But internationally, Wechat Pay was behind Alipay anyway.
You can actually use Alipay to buy things on Taobao or Aliexpress or Alibaba for example.

In comparison, HSBC and Standard Chartered are going to be even more motivated to use their international networks, and make the RMB and DCEP an international success.

This helps them to bypass any US Dollar restrictions, and also sets them up to take a central role when the RMB is a global reserve currency in the future.

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j17wang said:

I actually really like this development. Now even chinese-americans that were previously fence sitters are now seeing this trade war in personal terms, and that thier personal survival is at stake. To be crystal clear, I am a Chinese patriot, but I never have nor will I ever love the CCP. But right now, they are absolutely necessary to the survival of the chinese people, and of the chinese nation.

Many of you will remember how a few months ago I told the forum that I would be spending massive amounts of money buying Chinese products (including my Type 97 NSR rifle for my girlfriend, since we both got out PALs in Canada). I've held true to my promises and have spent roughly +$1,000 on chinese electronics each month since April. I've baught a Lenovo Laptop, a FlashForge 3DPrinter, Exway Electric Skateboard, Insta360 Action Camera, DJI Mavic Drone, DJI Gimbal, DJI Robomaster Robot. More are coming... and although it isn't alot when China and the US are economies in the trillions, I suggest each and every one of you also weaponize your wallets. I've also pre-ordered the Polestar 2! (finance rates are 0.9% for 60 months) If there is gonna be a cold war, I'm damn well gonna fight it to the very best of my abilities.

I suggest you do too.

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gadgetcool5 said:

I am a Chinese American liberal, heck I think Xi Jinping should be overthrown, and I just unboxed by first Huawei phone - P40 Pro today, and copied all my apps from my old Galaxy S10 phone onto it. IMO this is not about politics, this is about supporting the legitimate rights of private Chinese citizens to contribute to the technological advancement of mankind. After doing some research I decided to replace Chrome with Firefox, Gmail with Protonmail as my mail email (using mail forwarding), and Google Search with DuckDuckGo as my default browser search.

China does not offer a good international browser (I don't support subsidizing bad products; besides the inconvenience it won't work), email client or search engine, but there are still reasons to switch:
Firefox because it's an open source browser that does not go to a for-profit US corporation and isn't part of the Google ecosystem.
Protonmail because it's Swiss and not American, so not likely to be subject to entity list orders, plus it's more secure.
DuckDuckGo because it's not part of Google and doesn't keep track of your data.

Edit: For those with problems with Protonmail, got any good alternative?

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gadgetcool5 said:

I am a Chinese American liberal, heck I think Xi Jinping should be overthrown, and I just unboxed by first Huawei phone - P40 Pro today, and copied all my apps from my old Galaxy S10 phone onto it. IMO this is not about politics, this is about supporting the legitimate rights of private Chinese citizens to contribute to the technological advancement of mankind. After doing some research I decided to replace Chrome with Firefox, Gmail with Protonmail as my mail email (using mail forwarding), and Google Search with DuckDuckGo as my default browser search.

China does not offer a good international browser (I don't support subsidizing bad products; besides the inconvenience it won't work), email client or search engine, but there are still reasons to switch:
Firefox because it's an open source browser that does not go to a for-profit US corporation and isn't part of the Google ecosystem.
Protonmail because it's Swiss and not American, so not likely to be subject to entity list orders, plus it's more secure.
DuckDuckGo because it's not part of Google and doesn't keep track of your data.

Edit: For those with problems with Protonmail, got any good alternative?

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gadgetcool5 said:

I am a Chinese American liberal, heck I think Xi Jinping should be overthrown, and I just unboxed by first Huawei phone - P40 Pro today, and copied all my apps from my old Galaxy S10 phone onto it. IMO this is not about politics, this is about supporting the legitimate rights of private Chinese citizens to contribute to the technological advancement of mankind. After doing some research I decided to replace Chrome with Firefox, Gmail with Protonmail as my mail email (using mail forwarding), and Google Search with DuckDuckGo as my default browser search.

China does not offer a good international browser (I don't support subsidizing bad products; besides the inconvenience it won't work), email client or search engine, but there are still reasons to switch:
Firefox because it's an open source browser that does not go to a for-profit US corporation and isn't part of the Google ecosystem.
Protonmail because it's Swiss and not American, so not likely to be subject to entity list orders, plus it's more secure.
DuckDuckGo because it's not part of Google and doesn't keep track of your data.

Edit: For those with problems with Protonmail, got any good alternative?

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t2contra said:

I hug Xi Jinping and will be getting a Huawei phone. I use Opera.

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Peter2018 said:

How about oneplus and xiaomi smartphones?

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gadgetcool5 said:

I am a Chinese American liberal, heck I think Xi Jinping should be overthrown, and I just unboxed by first Huawei phone - P40 Pro today, and copied all my apps from my old Galaxy S10 phone onto it. IMO this is not about politics, this is about supporting the legitimate rights of private Chinese citizens to contribute to the technological advancement of mankind. After doing some research I decided to replace Chrome with Firefox, Gmail with Protonmail as my mail email (using mail forwarding), and Google Search with DuckDuckGo as my default browser search.

China does not offer a good international browser (I don't support subsidizing bad products; besides the inconvenience it won't work), email client or search engine, but there are still reasons to switch:
Firefox because it's an open source browser that does not go to a for-profit US corporation and isn't part of the Google ecosystem.
Protonmail because it's Swiss and not American, so not likely to be subject to entity list orders, plus it's more secure.
DuckDuckGo because it's not part of Google and doesn't keep track of your data.

Edit: For those with problems with Protonmail, got any good alternative?

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supercat said:

iPhone sales in China will be hurt badly by a WeChart ban.

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