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Sexy F-22 vs. Sexy J-20 and Sexy f-35 vs. sexy J-31!;)

Plot: It's the US vs. the DPRK. The North Korean dictatorship has be been replaced by a mad DPRK general who was a once a war hero during the Korean War and wants to put the conflict into a final ending. A few of the Chinese planes were mysteriously stolen from a Chinese PLAAF base and were miraculously copied to a certain amount to pose a serious threat to the South Koreans.:eek:
 

plawolf

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Oh yes I was thinking about making a reply about this movie here. And yes I notice they reflect the world in a very interesting setting, where US have lost it is dominance as the world reserve currency where that is replaced by RBM instead. And where most of the US pretty much turned into Detroit with Urban decay and rampant crime and there is nothing the government can do about it. And very interesting they show China as this orderly nation with sky scrappers and everything.

This is like the worse case scenario for America in the future, and if they don't fix the debt problem it is a very real possibility. And yes the movie is a little bit too pro Chinese so I understand why some people don't like it.

But the whole movie itself is a giant plot hole. How can he grow old if he don't kill himself? He can't kill and not kill himself at same time unless there are multiple timeline for the future, but as it has shown whatever happen to you now your future self will receive instant effect that means there is only one timeline possible. So the whole premises is flawed from beginning to end.

Do spoiler tags work? If so, maybe you should use them if you want to take about the move in depth in case others want to watched it, and they would not have the same experience if they knew what happens at the end.

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Edit, ok, so spoiler tags don't work on this board. Pity.
 

AssassinsMace

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I saw Skyfall last night. I have to say it didn't live up to the hype and I was rather disappointed. Don't pay extra for better sound and picture like some theaters are doing these days. There's nothing in this movie that makes it better to pay the extra money for those extras. In itself it was okay but for a Bond movie? Daniel Craig's Casino Royale was refeshing since it was a grittier brutal James Bond. But I have to say the following movies have fallen off. I like the whole booby trapping the house in the end but it didn't save it. One of the criticism of the pre-Daniel Craig James Bond movies was James Bond didn't go through a personal journey. It was the same guy from the beginning to the end. I can see that's why those critics like Danial Craig's movies but it comes at the sacrifice of being lazy with everything else. Simple things like turn off your darn flashlight but it was the most simplist way to get the villain to get where he wanted to go. Oh how did the villain know the exact place and time to place a bomb and use a train to be used to block James Bond from pursuing him? The first Daniel Craig James Bond movie he wasn't even a "00" agent yet. This one he's already over the hill to which symbolized with his relationship with "Q" who is now basically a kid. And no more gagets it seems because to this Q thinks is outdated so he's just a quarter master/computer genius. When it comes to iconic Bond girls... Sometimes there are more than one. Sometimes he has sex with them... some just want to kill him. Some die... some live to be with Bond until he moves on to the next movie. There this new one played by French actress Berenice Lim Marlohe who seems to be the main Bond girl this round but she's not. In this new one there's a twist and it's not the one that turns out to be Robin who shows up in the end of Dark Knight Rises. This latest turns out to be Bond's longest lasting woman in his life... In another James Bond movie those twists might've turn out to be fun. The hype said this movie is the best James Bond ever going back to everything you liked about James Bond. I found it surprisingly un-James Bond.
 
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jackliu

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today. Overall a great movie with a lot of deep meaning and symbolism.

It is very rare to see a mainstream movie about reincarnation, and this one handle it well.

But this is also one of those movies that are meshed together from different pieces which make it somewhat hard to follow, or understand due to the different accents that actors plays in different eras.

Overall, this is a movie for thinkers, not for people that want to see actions, although there is plenty of actions in this one as well.

The overall theme gives a great message. "There is more to me than my life, action have consequences that ripple through countless lifetimes"



edit. Just realize this movie has the same director as Matrix series and V for Vendetta. Also it had over 100 million dollar budget, but so far it only earned 20 million at box office. I think the movie is just too advanced for the general population, however I high recommend everyone to see this, many people says it takes more than one setting to understand it all, but if you do see it and understand it, it will be one of the best movie you have ever see in your life.

I am making a shameless plea for everyone to support this movie.

[video=youtube;pQFAPeaJOf8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQFAPeaJOf8[/video]
 
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AssassinsMace

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Paramount Hopes to Set Transformers 4 in China for Big-Money Reasons
By Claude Brodesser-Akner


Vulture has learned that Michael Bay’s rapidly coalescing but still-untitled fourth Transformers film, starring Mark Wahlberg, is likely to be set in mainland China. Is this because it makes sense dramatically for the battle to head to where the original toys were likely built? No, sources say that Bay and Paramount’s reasoning is more bottom-line: Filming in China and, even more ideally, working with a local production partner raises the odds that the fourth Transformers will get a wide release in China, a country with a massive potential box office. “By getting Chinese culture into it, there’s a better chance of getting it into China,” explained one insider briefed on the studio’s plans, “and less chance of getting frozen out.”


Unlike the U.S. market, where ticket sales have been falling for years, the Chinese box office has exploded recently, growing 35 percent last year to $2 billion. It’s now the second-largest international market in the world behind Japan, which it’s expected to overtake later this year. But to the Chinese government, Hollywood movies are a double-edged Twizzler: In February, the government lifted its annual quota of foreign movies able to be shown there from 20 to 34, and officials have become nervous about how foreign blockbusters are working to the detriment of their homegrown films. “[M]ore foreign films in the Chinese market have dealt a blow to domestic films,” said Tian Jin, vice minister of the state’s Administration of Radio, Film and Television, at last week’s China’s 18th Communist Party Congress, adding that China’s film industry was “shaken.” This year, Chinese films only accounted for 40 percent of the country’s box office, and that is expected to drop to 35 percent next year. As a result, the government has been handicapping many of America’s biggest blockbusters.


This past summer, protectionist trade officials in China insisted that two of the year’s hugest films — Warner Bros.’ The Dark Knight Rises and Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man — would both be released in the final week of August. The resulting collision was calamitous, says one rival Hollywood studio distribution chief. While both films made about the same amount in their opening weekends — Spider-Man about $32 million, Dark Knight about $31 million — they could have made much more had they not been pitted against each other, according to this expert. “The Chinese Film Commission got what they wanted, which is to suppress box office,” said this distribution capo, adding, “If you have two openings of similar size, you gotta assume they left at least 50 percent of their potential take on the table — maybe more, given the size and scope of those movies.” China’s position is strong, though, and the studios can’t do anything about it: Though Sony and MGM’s Skyfall has generated more than half a billion dollars around the globe in box office so far, just this week, China forced the studios to postpone its release there until early 2013.


Meanwhile, MGM's remake of Red Dawn originally posited that the Chinese were invading America because our country had defaulted on its debt, but when the film went into limbo because of MGM’s financial meltdown, the script leaked, and the Chinese government was not happy at news of their country’s portrayal. And so, at their behest — and the very real threat that this plot would cause the film to be barred from the valuable country — the movie was reshot to make North Korea the insurgent enemy, and the repo story line was removed. As a result, Red Dawn has recently been cleared by a Chinese minister of culture for exhibition there. (It opens in the U.S. on Nov. 21.) “The Chinese don’t have a problem with American nationalism,” says Beau Flynn, one of the producers of the new Red Dawn, who, appropriately, was reached at a special screening of his film for U.S. servicemen at the U.S. Navy’s Construction Battalion Center in Port Hueneme, California. “They just don’t want China to be portrayed in a bad light, and that’s understandable — I understand that. Even America does that.”


Studios have been looking at new ways to make sure they get full access to Chinese moviegoers. As we reported last April, Disney partnered with Chinese media company DMG to make Iron Man 3 and to film part of it in China. Foreign films co-produced in China are counted as domestic films, and so Iron Man 3 is much more likely to get an advantageous release date there, a game plan that Transformers seems to be following: While a spokesman for DMG declined to comment, insiders say Paramount and DMG have been in talks for months about Transformers.


A spokeswoman for Paramount, Katie Martin Kelley, declined to say if the studio planned to shoot Transformers 4 in China, noting that “the script to the movie is still being written.” When asked if the studio had interest in making the film a Chinese co-production, Martin Kelley added, “All I can say is, ‘It is not a Chinese co-production,’ and that’s where things stand right now.” A call placed to Michael Bay’s office was not returned at deadline.


(As for today’s story by the Hollywood Reporter that a Transformers location scout had just visited Thailand to explore shooting there: That country could be an additional location, or the visit could possibly be a negotiating tactic to let the Chinese know Paramount has other options. But either way, we are assured by our sources that China is the first choice for the production and that Bay has been contemplating ways to make the film with a Chinese partner.)


A second source close to the Transformers sequel, who verifies the plan to shoot in China, says that cultural censors there will closely consult on the still-evolving Transformers script. “They want to make sure that the Chinese military are depicted as a highly competent group of super-fighters,” said this production source, “not some third-world force.” (Ironically, last year, China’s state television news service, CCTV, aired footage that it claimed was of a training exercise by the Chinese Air Force’s J-10 fighter. Turns out it was actually footage from Top Gun, a movie made by Transformers’ studio, Paramount!)


This kind of governmental collaboration would not be new to Michael Bay, who has made a fine career out of wrangling unprecedented support from the American government to make his films: He worked extremely closely with NASA in the making of Armageddon, and had enormous technical assistance from the U.S. Navy in making Pearl Harbor, largely on the premise that nary a disparaging word about either would appear in his films.


But jingoists need not worry that this is a sign that Transformers 4 will be actively pushing Chinese propaganda: With Bay at the helm, it’s likely a moot point. Our source noted that while script reassurances to China’s communist overlords might be politically necessary by Bay and Paramount, they aren’t likely to add up to big concessions on this film. “It’s not Oliver Stone making this movie,” says our insider, “[Bay] is not going to make some political statement about [Chinese government] atrocities or oppression. He’s going to be more interested in showing how robots blow up some corner of the Great Wall of China.”

This article is peppered with misinformation. Talk about propaganda...

But I like the part where this author thinks threatening to film in Thailand is a negotiating tactic to scare China into letting them film there while before mentioning how Beijing doesn't like Hollywood's dominance in the Chinese box office. Beijing doesn't like Hollywood yet won't pass up the opportunity to have a Hollywood movie filmed in China while for some reason keeping the filmmakers up in the air on permission? Love that tornado of contradictory thoughts. I'm sure Paramount Pictures is not at all arrogant even to think they're the ones in a position of power over China.

Putting aside the business angle, I wonder if that means we'll see a J-20 or J-31 as a Transformer.
 

In4ser

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today. Overall a great movie with a lot of deep meaning and symbolism.

It is very rare to see a mainstream movie about reincarnation, and this one handle it well.

But this is also one of those movies that are meshed together from different pieces which make it somewhat hard to follow, or understand due to the different accents that actors plays in different eras.

Overall, this is a movie for thinkers, not for people that want to see actions, although there is plenty of actions in this one as well.

The overall theme gives a great message. "There is more to me than my life, action have consequences that ripple through countless lifetimes"



edit. Just realize this movie has the same director as Matrix series and V for Vendetta. Also it had over 100 million dollar budget, but so far it only earned 20 million at box office. I think the movie is just too advanced for the general population, however I high recommend everyone to see this, many people says it takes more than one setting to understand it all, but if you do see it and understand it, it will be one of the best movie you have ever see in your life.

I am making a shameless plea for everyone to support this movie.

[video=youtube;pQFAPeaJOf8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQFAPeaJOf8[/video]
Oh hollywood...no matter how often the male lead dies and is reborn he must be white.
 

ABC78

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This article is peppered with misinformation. Talk about propaganda...

But I like the part where this author thinks threatening to film in Thailand is a negotiating tactic to scare China into letting them film there while before mentioning how Beijing doesn't like Hollywood's dominance in the Chinese box office. Beijing doesn't like Hollywood yet won't pass up the opportunity to have a Hollywood movie filmed in China while for some reason keeping the filmmakers up in the air on permission? Love that tornado of contradictory thoughts. I'm sure Paramount Pictures is not at all arrogant even to think they're the ones in a position of power over China.

Putting aside the business angle, I wonder if that means we'll see a J-20 or J-31 as a Transformer.

You know most people in the US forget that during the Cold War the movie The Battle of the Buldge the lead SS panzer commander in the movie was made less of a fanatic so as to not offend the West Germans. Because the actually person the character was base on something Piper was a hardcore Nazi and personally ordered US surrendering POWs to be shoot duringvthe Ardens offensive.

And didn't the second transformers movie open with the US/UK anti-Decepticon team fly into Shanghai.(of course probably a fake Shanghai industrial block) Plus foreign troops operating freely without any Chinese personnel in Shanghai.
 

jackliu

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Oh hollywood...no matter how often the male lead dies and is reborn he must be white.

Well no actually, in one of the reborn, everyone is Asian, they actually had the make up department that makes all white actors looks Asian, that include skin color change... and slit eyelids (kinda offensive).
 

plawolf

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I saw Skyfall last night. I have to say it didn't live up to the hype and I was rather disappointed. Don't pay extra for better sound and picture like some theaters are doing these days. There's nothing in this movie that makes it better to pay the extra money for those extras. In itself it was okay but for a Bond movie? Daniel Craig's Casino Royale was refeshing since it was a grittier brutal James Bond. But I have to say the following movies have fallen off. I like the whole booby trapping the house in the end but it didn't save it. One of the criticism of the pre-Daniel Craig James Bond movies was James Bond didn't go through a personal journey. It was the same guy from the beginning to the end. I can see that's why those critics like Danial Craig's movies but it comes at the sacrifice of being lazy with everything else. Simple things like turn off your darn flashlight but it was the most simplist way to get the villain to get where he wanted to go. Oh how did the villain know the exact place and time to place a bomb and use a train to be used to block James Bond from pursuing him? The first Daniel Craig James Bond movie he wasn't even a "00" agent yet. This one he's already over the hill to which symbolized with his relationship with "Q" who is now basically a kid. And no more gagets it seems because to this Q thinks is outdated so he's just a quarter master/computer genius. When it comes to iconic Bond girls... Sometimes there are more than one. Sometimes he has sex with them... some just want to kill him. Some die... some live to be with Bond until he moves on to the next movie. There this new one played by French actress Berenice Lim Marlohe who seems to be the main Bond girl this round but she's not. In this new one there's a twist and it's not the one that turns out to be Robin who shows up in the end of Dark Knight Rises. This latest turns out to be Bond's longest lasting woman in his life... In another James Bond movie those twists might've turn out to be fun. The hype said this movie is the best James Bond ever going back to everything you liked about James Bond. I found it surprisingly un-James Bond.

Well there is always a risk that any film no matter how good would disappoint if the hype and expectations were too high before you saw it, which is one of the reasons I try to avoid reading reviews or gossip about new films whenever possible. I will go on IMDB to look at the point score of a film to decide if it is worth seeing, but I try to actively avoid finding out too much about it beforehand.

It's also funny how tastes can differ, because I quite enjoyed most of the film except the booby traps bit. :p It felt a little too much like Home Alone for grown ups, and it just seemed silly that the bad guys would split his force in two instead of concentrating his men for one big push, and that the first wave conveniently set off every single booby trap and were few enough that they could all be killed off so easily and leave Bond with a helpful stash of arms scattered about the place for him to use against the second wave. Although I must admit I might be unduly harsh on that part o the film because I had drank too much Coke at that point and desperately wanted to use the bathroom, and was quietly willing the film to end. :p

I like Craig's Bond because he is a hell of a lot more believable and credible than any of his predecessors. The lack of fancy gadgets was a plus for me, as it was more in keeping with this new rugged Bond who actually had the skills and physical prowess needed to get stuff done instead of giving off the impression of a pretty boy pansy who only got by because of Q's magical bag of tricks that can get him out of any tight spot he might find himself in. I think the Bourne films kinda redefined what popular imagination of a government secret agent should be like, and I do wonder if that had an impact on how Craig's Bond was developed, but I digress and that's probably a discussion for another time.

I thought even the palm print gun was an unnecessary distraction because you can guess as soon as Q gave Bond the gun that at some point a baddy will get it, try to shoot Bond with it and take an eternity to figure out that the big red lights on the grip means it ain't gonna work.

I do agree with you that they did overplay the whole supervillian thing and stretched it to the point where it was hard to remain immersed in the story, example in point being the perfectly timed train crash. I think it would have been far more believable if the computer virus automatically sent a signal once activated to the bomb to start a countdown, as even if Bond wasn't hot on his heels, the bad guy would have expected pursuit to follow him eventually, so closing the tunnel behind him to cut them off would a perfectly sensible thing to do. Only catch is there is no mobile reception in the London Underground precisely because MI5 did not want terrorists setting off bombs remotely, but I'm sure they could have come up with an easy workaround, like hijacking the PA system to broadcasting an audio signal to trigger the countdown like a dial-up modem tone etc.

On the whole, I did enjoy the new batch of old characters as it brought up a surprisingly strong and pleasant sense of nostalgia while still staying true to the new feel of Bond. I particularly liked how Ralph Fiennes' character was handled because I did not realize this was to be Judi Dench's last Bond film, so I was half expecting him to secretly be a bad guy and in league with Silva for most of the film. That made the twist at the end better because I did not see it coming a mile off like I did with Naomie Harris' character.
 
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