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Equation

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Yes, much better than Aronald's one, not going to point out the obvious new CGI, but the main actor can actually act for once.

LOL...of course as for acting there's simply no comparison between Collin Ferrel and Ahnold! But what you said about the movie got me very curious to go rent it. Thanks.
 

AssassinsMace

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Bummer news that the Top Gun sequel seems to have fallen apart in the wake of director Tony Scott's death.

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November 6, 2012


Suicide Complicates ‘Top Gun’ Project

By MICHAEL CIEPLY


LOS ANGELES — Tony Scott is gone, but his blockbuster film “Top Gun” may yet provide him with one of his bigger movie moments.

Since Mr. Scott committed suicide on Aug. 19, executives at Paramount Pictures have been quietly debating what to do with a 3-D version of “Top Gun,” the 1986 film that was directed by Mr. Scott and featured Tom Cruise as the Navy fighter pilot Maverick, a role that made him an international superstar.

Completed earlier this year by Legend3D, which specializes in converting conventional 2-D film, the three-dimensional “Top Gun” had been seen as a way to whet the world’s appetite for a sequel that was being planned by Mr. Scott, Mr. Cruise and the producer Jerry Bruckheimer.

But now the sequel has fallen apart. And Paramount and its partners are left with a 3-D film that might be perceived by moviegoers as a tribute to a director whose death remains a mystery to many friends and associates. It might also become a final box-office triumph — but only if the studio can reach the audience without seeming insensitive or exploitative.

Paramount spotted the enormous potential in the conversion of older films when it joined in the release this year of a 3-D version of “Titanic,” with help from the film’s director, James Cameron, and the Stereo D company. Though familiar from endless showings in theaters and home-video formats since its debut in 1997, “Titanic” in its 3-D format had about $342 million in ticket sales around the world, with a conversion cost of only about $18 million.

The response was driven partly by a powerful reception in China, where the film opened to $67 million in first-weekend business from a pool of 3-D capable screens that is still growing.

With its dizzying aerial action, motorcycle moments and those deeply rippled abs in the volleyball sequence, “Top Gun” — which had about $354 million in worldwide ticket sales, split evenly between domestic and international — seemed a natural candidate for conversion, especially with the potential for a sequel.

Legend3D, which counts “Hugo” and “Alice in Wonderland” among its projects, undertook the work as part of an expansion aimed at strengthening ties with the major studios and extending the company’s reach in Asia and Europe.

Mr. Scott contributed and responded enthusiastically to the conversion in the weeks before his death, according to people who were briefed on the project but were not authorized to speak publicly because Paramount has not finalized a plan.

Representatives of Paramount, Legend3D and Mr. Bruckheimer declined to discuss “Top Gun 3-D.” But people briefed on the studio’s deliberations said it was considering a release in February, perhaps beginning with a one-week exclusive showing on domestic Imax screens.

That would mimic a strategy used to revive “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” which took in about $3 million in ticket sales with a digitally remastered 2-D Imax version in September.

An Imax representative declined to discuss “Top Gun 3-D.”

At one point, according to those people, studio executives considered releasing “Top Gun 3-D” as early as this year in China and Russia, given the enormous appetite for 3-D and the continued popularity of Mr. Cruise in those countries. The new version was submitted to film censors in China, those people said, despite its distinctly American patriotic theme, which involves United States fighter pilots who ultimately defeat an unidentified enemy flying Soviet-era MIGs.

But the Chinese have been silent so far; without clearance from the censor, the film could not find a spot on this year’s schedule in China, where the number of foreign releases is tightly restricted.

Whatever timeline the studio adopts, it will have to tread the line between the usual exuberant promotion of a film and sensitivity to the circumstances of its director’s death. For Hollywood, the intersection of movies and real-life tragedies has been a recurring theme this year. In the spring 20th Century Fox changed the name of “Neighborhood Watch” to “The Watch” amid a national debate about vigilantism after the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida, and in the summer Warner Brothers adjusted its advertising and publicity plans for “The Dark Knight Rises” after a gunman opened fire and killed 12 and wounded 58 others at an opening-night showing of that film in a Colorado theater.

For now at least a few of the questions surrounding Mr. Scott’s plunge from the Vincent Thomas Bridge here have begun to settle.

In late October the Los Angeles County coroner’s office released a brief statement that officially ruled Mr. Scott’s death a suicide, and noted that toxicology reports from an autopsy revealed a “therapeutic level” of mirtazapine, an antidepressant, and zopiclone, a sleep aid. A more detailed report is expected in the next week, the coroner’s office said.

Only days before jumping, Mr. Scott had been scouting locations with Mr. Cruise for the proposed “Top Gun” sequel, which he would have directed.

At the same time, Mr. Scott was among the producers of “Out of the Furnace,” an action drama being directed by Scott Cooper, the director of “Crazy Heart,” with Christian Bale, Woody Harrelson, Casey Affleck and others in starring roles.

Like a number of Mr. Scott’s friends and associates, Mr. Cooper declined in recent weeks to discuss Mr. Scott’s death or his work on the film. He said that Ridley Scott, Mr. Scott’s brother who is also a producer of “Out of the Furnace,” had repeatedly asked him and others not to discuss Mr. Scott’s life or demise.

Through their spokesman Simon Halls, both Ridley Scott and Tony Scott’s widow, Donna Scott, declined requests to be interviewed about Mr. Scott’s death or his final work.

Apart from the possible return of “Top Gun” in its 3-D version, Mr. Scott’s last work as a director appears to have been a Diet Mountain Dew commercial. It featured the entrepreneur Mark Cuban in a role that had him offering to trade fame and fortune for a last drink of the soda in a convenience store.

“Tony was amazing,” Mr. Cuban said in a recent e-mail of his experience with Mr. Scott in making the 30-second spot. “He was fun, vibrant and having a great time on the set.”

Mr. Cuban added, “It is still so shocking to me that he is gone.”
 

plawolf

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Have many of you guys seen 'Looper'? Just watched it today and really enjoyed it as it was a nice and clever film that had substance and character instead of just a load of fancy CGI graphics like so many other recent scifi films.

I would definitely recommend it, especially since it has just been released on DVD.

One of the more noticeable aspects of that film was the generally positive way China was depicted and the contrast between China and America.

America was the setting, and there were only a few short scenes with China, but it either showed the gleaming skyscrapers of Shanghai (with quite a few extra futuristic buildings PSed in) or rural China that was quite green and idilic.

In contrast, the American city most of the film was shot in was seen as chaotic, run down and controlled by mobsters. What more, even in America, everyone was using Renminbis with Mao's grinning face all over them. Quite a bold move by the makers and quite a refreshing change.
 

AssassinsMace

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Well that's what people were complaining about who had a problem with Chinese influence in Hollywood. Ironman 3 was suppose to have finished filming in China already but has been delayed until December. Some people claimed it was because the China co-production fell apart. Others brought up because of Looper being Chinese co-finance, some in Beijing complained how little Chinese elements there were to what they invested. Apparently the Chinese version had more Chinese elements cut into it than everywhere else. But most likely the delay in Ironman 3 is due to Robert Downey Jr being injured during filming in the US. There are those in Hollywood that don't want Chinese influence but of course they still want the money.
 

jackliu

Banned Idiot
Have many of you guys seen 'Looper'? Just watched it today and really enjoyed it as it was a nice and clever film that had substance and character instead of just a load of fancy CGI graphics like so many other recent scifi films.

I would definitely recommend it, especially since it has just been released on DVD.

One of the more noticeable aspects of that film was the generally positive way China was depicted and the contrast between China and America.

America was the setting, and there were only a few short scenes with China, but it either showed the gleaming skyscrapers of Shanghai (with quite a few extra futuristic buildings PSed in) or rural China that was quite green and idilic.

In contrast, the American city most of the film was shot in was seen as chaotic, run down and controlled by mobsters. What more, even in America, everyone was using Renminbis with Mao's grinning face all over them. Quite a bold move by the makers and quite a refreshing change.

Oh yes I was thinking about making a reply about this movie here. And yes I notice they reflect the world in a very interesting setting, where US have lost it is dominance as the world reserve currency where that is replaced by RBM instead. And where most of the US pretty much turned into Detroit with Urban decay and rampant crime and there is nothing the government can do about it. And very interesting they show China as this orderly nation with sky scrappers and everything.

This is like the worse case scenario for America in the future, and if they don't fix the debt problem it is a very real possibility. And yes the movie is a little bit too pro Chinese so I understand why some people don't like it.

But the whole movie itself is a giant plot hole. How can he grow old if he don't kill himself? He can't kill and not kill himself at same time unless there are multiple timeline for the future, but as it has shown whatever happen to you now your future self will receive instant effect that means there is only one timeline possible. So the whole premises is flawed from beginning to end.
 

balance

Junior Member
Can you guys tell me where to find the websites that give information about the newest chinese movies? I have trouble keeping up with the theatrical movies that come up in China/Taiwan/Hong Kong.

Thanks.
 
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AssassinsMace

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