Movies in General

hanqiang1011

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What about PLA warplanes? Mig-19 I guess, Mig-21 is too high tech.

I wasnt sure on the warplane part since I saw the AK-47 were posted on the Chinese website. I am, however, boycotting this film as it would waste another S$10/- from my savings as well as 2 hrs of my life. :rofl:

Hi fellas,

Its great to discuss movies in here. Now I did a search - THE KING OF FIGHTERS MOVIE 2010 - Who's anticipating? Another 'white' (Sean Faris) casted as Kyo Kusanagi after Dragonball:Evolution's 'white' Goku - Justin Chatwin.

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Ha Ha Ha... Funny casts, especially Maggie Q as Mai Shiranui... Errrmm... A bit 'small' in my humble opinion. A disappointment for the game fans perhaps in terms of castings / storyline?

I have used the word 'white' to refer to the white actors, please suggest another word to describe the race of actors, if possible that is.

Thanks :nana:
 
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vesicles

Colonel
Re: THE KING OF FIGHTERS MOVIE 2010 - Another film that disappoints...

I have used the word 'white' to refer to the white actors, please suggest another word to describe the race of actors, if possible that is.

Thanks :nana:

"Caucasian" would be a better word for it...
 

AssassinsMace

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What did I tell you? Red Dawn might be dead or relegated to DVD (which is most likely if not released in theaters) simply because no studio wants to offend today's second largest market, and future number one, in the world for Hollywood blockbusters. What I didn't know is the studio, MGM, that was deep in debt and for sale, was a hot potato for potential buyers because of the fear of the wrath from China simply because of this movie. MGM has not been able to accept any offers because they were too low from potential buyers taking into account losses they would suffer in profits because of this movie. And it mentions how Chinese netziens might have influenced the situation MGM is faced with.


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The “China price” for Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
May 10, 2010 12:01amby Zach Coleman | Share
Might China have had something to do with the recent failed auction of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, the historic Hollywood studio?

The debt-burdened studio’s lenders received a number of bids, but were unimpressed with their size. With the outlook cloudy after setting the bids aside, the studio put production of the next James Bond movie on hold.

While Bond is now on the ropes, film fans report the studio has finished shooting the next big picture on its release calendar - and that just might have led some prospective bidders to discount their offers.
Due out November 24, Red Dawn is a remake of the Reagan-era production of the same name, championed as a classic by American conservatives. It depicted brothers played by Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen leading a band of Rocky Mountain high schoolers heroically resisting Soviet invaders.

This time the action was filmed in Detroit - and the invaders depicted as the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, who roll in on a mission to “repair the economy, fight corporate corruption and rebuild the country’s reputation” according to photos of on-set propaganda posters shot by curious fans.

The Chinese media has already begun sounding the alarm about the film, with a foreign columnist in China Daily warning:

Red Dawn most certainly will not play at the Beijing Megabox, but tempers here will probably explode like kernels of movie house popcorn nonetheless.

Netizens across China are already firing away at Red Dawn’s yellow peril storyline. How, they wonder, could an American screenwriter depict their countrymen as enemy forces on par with America’s Cold War nemesis?

I looked for a copy of the original film at the Huashi Weiye CD-DVD shop adjacent to The Village of Sanlitun. None of the three clerks I spoke with had heard of the original or its remake. All expressed incredulity that such a movie would be in production; one gave a look that could best be described as shellshock.

“If this movie comes to China, the Chinese people will feel upset,” said one female clerk.

MGM, alongside Disney and TriStar, were sanctioned by China in 1997 after each released a movie deemed offensive by Beijing (taking on the touchy topic of Tibet in the case of Disney and TriStar while MGM ran into trouble for the unfavourable depiction of Chinese criminal justice in Red Corner, which starred Dalai Lama-buddy Richard Gere). Only concerted lobbying and personal pleading by the likes of Henry Kissinger and Michael Eisner and acts of contrition such as the overseas promotion of Chinese films got the studios unbanned.

Since that unpleasant episode, Hollywood has tiptoed around Chinese sensibilities, in stark contrast to productions such as Rising Sun that tripped forth when Americans were worried that Japan posed an economic threat. Richard Gere has been kept busy with dancing and dogs, James Bond got a helpful Chinese army sidekick and even The Manchurian Candidate was remade with the evil Chinese masterminds transformed into Wall Street bad guys. While Hollywood angled for greater access to 2.6bn Chinese eyeballs, the cinematic battleground shifted into a guerrilla struggle fought over arty film festivals around the world that happened to include documentaries about the Dalai Lama and his Uighur counterpart, Rebiya Kadeer.

With China this year showing unprecedented pique over the US president meeting the Dalai Lama and approving arms sales to Taiwan, it seems unlikely MGM will escape unscathed when Red Dawn lights screens again, though a spokesman told China Daily:

This is a movie that was set in motion because we thought it would be a fun popcorn experience. It’s not a political film.

Even John Milius, who directed and co-wrote the 1984 original, told the Los Angeles Times the remake is “a stupid thing”.

“There’s only one example in 4,000 years of Chinese territorial adventurism, and that was in 1979, when they invaded Vietnam, and to put it mildly they got their [butts] handed to them,” says Milius, noting that China built a wall to separate itself from invaders. “Why would China want us? They sell us stuff. We’re a market. I would have done it about Mexico.”

Whether ‘Tequila Sunrise’ would have worked better than Red Dawn is surely a matter for the film buffs.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
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I watched a episode of "NCIS Los Angeles" the other night which could have some undesirable implications. The storyline had a family with their young son immigrate to the USA. The rub was that the family were sleeper agents, with the son going to school in America, doing what it takes to be an officer in the US navy, and then feeding all the secrets back to China.
 

AssassinsMace

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First it was James Bond and now I just read production on the movie The Hobbit is now delayed because of the MGM mess. Big Hollywood money-making franchises delayed because in part of Red Dawn. Normally the kind of publicity that would result if China made a stink would be looked upon as free advertisement. How times have changed. My prediction now is you'll be seeing Chinese money invested into a major studio. Just a couple of years ago, the head of one of China's state sovereign wealth funds said he was interested in doing just that. At the time it was mocked and furthest from any studio's mind that a Chinese entity was a part of a Hollywood studio. You even saw much publicity of much preferred Indian company doing just that with Steven Spielberg's Dreamworks. Why is it possible now? Because the Hong Kong movie industry is now booming after a significant slump because of a partnership with mainland filmmakers. Because of that partnership, they are not included in the quota for foreign films shown in China. It wasn't too long ago the Western casino and gambling industry had nearly the same attitude towards Macau. Now everyone one them is begging for a concession to open a casino there. You even see major casino corporations abandoning domestic gambling regions who have regulatory agencies with strict rules that would prevent them from doing business in Macau just so they can get into the most lucrative gambling market in the world. As of now a Chinese partnership into a US studio is probably the only way they can by-pass the quota.
 

ABC78

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It's kind of funny a cable tv franchise like Stargate made the effort to arm it's people with Type 97's while the dummies that are remaking Red Dawn with PLA just hands out Russian AK-74's.
 

AssassinsMace

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Well it looks like some major news outlets are picking up on the Red Dawn remake jitters. Do a Google search on it. Well they say no publicity is bad publicity. The Global Times apparently has already said it's going to hurt the feelings of the Chinese people. Oh, God! Please stop embarrassing the Chinese around the world with your stupid comments, Beijing. Interesting to see how Bejing is going to handle it. On another story where some Westerners are complaining that China edited out any reference to "Russia" in the Iron Man 2 movie. Apparently some people believe that's China looking out for a "friend." No that's just part of the rules of filmmaking in China. Just like how China also censors any antiAmerican websites that pop-up in China. If the US was being picked on like they think, China would be making there own Red Dawn movies with the US invading China. Plenty of accurate historical context there.
 

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
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Ive seen pictures in Chinese magazines of people dressed up to look like obvious Western Villans in Peking Opera/ cira Cultural revolution period.

Fancy being prepared to debase an icon of your heritage for propaganda purposes.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
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I remember this low-level comedian on the radio once talk about how he would get complaints because of his racist jokes. He told people if hey don't like it then they can choose not to watch his act whether in person on by turning off the TV or radio. Then a couple years later I hear this guy again on the same radio program where apparently people took his advice because now he was complaining he wasn't making enough money and not being booked by clubs and cruise ships. He blamed it on censorship by people of other ethnicities who he saw walk out on his act. Isn't that what he told them to do?

I hope someone dares to actually demand that Red Dawn be shown in China in the name of free speech. I won't be surpised if that happens.

Chinese press rails against 'Red Dawn'
China added as enemy in remake of 1984 film
By Jonathan Landreth

June 1, 2010, 10:04 AM ET
BEIJING -- An upcoming MGM remake of the 1984 film "Red Dawn" -- this time, with the Chinese and the Russians as the enemies -- has drawn sharp criticism from one of the leading Chinese state-run newspapers two days in a row.

"U.S. reshoots Cold War movie to demonize China" and "American movie plants hostile seeds against China," read the Monday and Tuesday editorials in Beijing-based The Global Times, whose daily circulation, in Chinese and English editions, is about 1.5 million.

Coming on the heels of secretary of state Hilary Clinton's recent China visit, the commentaries said the $42 million film directed by Dan Bradley and starring Connor Cruise (son of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman), "is deeply rooted in Americans' fear of China's rise."

"Despite the world's focus on U.S.-China relations in the Strategic and Economic Dialogue and their increasing economic connections, China can still feel U.S. distrust and fear, especially among its people. Americans' suspicions about China are the best ground for the Hawks to disseminate fear and doubt, which is the biggest concern with the movie 'Red Dawn,'" one commentary said.

Excerpts of the new "Red Dawn" script, by writers Carl Ellsworth and Jeremy Passmore, leaked out last weekend on the Web site The Awl. The excerpts appear to reflect a story that sees China's People's Liberation Army -- led by Korean-American actor Will Yun Lee playing the chief baddie, Captain Lo -- invading the U.S., with a group of resisters fighting back.

Posters from the film, which MGM is said to be planning to release in Nov., during the U.S. mid-term election season, show a cracked red white and blue U.S. map stamped with the PLA star and the slogan "Rebuilding Your Reputation," according to The Awl.

An MGM spokesman told The Reporter in an email that the posters online were made by fans, not by the filmmakers. "There isn't a one sheet for the film at this time," spokesman Grey Munford said.

Teng Jimeng, a professor of American Studies at the Beijing Foreign Studies University, said "Red Dawn" should not be taken seriously.

"It's just a piece of entertainment meant to make money out of the pockets of the post-Cold War, ideology-weary, multicultural audience," Teng told The Hollywood Reporter.

One of the "consequences" of Hollywood films showing around the world is an increasingly "amoral" and "insensitive" audience, he said.

China's media regulators long have bristled at politics in the movies and recently censored all mentions of Russia and Russians as villains from the Chinese theatrical version of "Iron Man 2."

On the flip side, director Lu Chuan's "City of Life and Death" was lauded last year by some for giving a human face to one of the Japanese soldiers depicted in his feature about the Nanjing Massacre in 1937, a hot-button anti-Japanese issue among common Chinese.

China's government, which tries to shield the population of 1.3 billion from too much foreign influence, limits to 20 the number of imported films allowed to take home a share of the boxoffice -- a cap the Motion Picture Assn. has fought for 10 years to change in hopes Hollywood studios might tap pent-up demand for entertainment.

With help from China's nascent middle class swells, the nation recently was the second-largest gross boxoffice market after the U.S. for Hollywood hits "Avatar," "2012," and "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen." Overall boxoffice gross here jumped 43% last year to $909 million and is tipped to climb more sharply still this year.

MGM has been up for sale since Nov. 2009. "Red Dawn" producers did not reply to emailed requests for comment.
 
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