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rhino123

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bladerunner said:
must check it out where would i go to look for one in Beijing and how much would i expect to pay, but i wonder how good the software is.
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Can't help you much in Beijing, my area of function is mostly in Dongguan and Shenzhen. However I believe all the chinese cities are almost the same, so you could just ask around for this place called electronic city (电子城）and most probably you would find a great amount of look alikes in there.

Actually the software of the apple lookalike is so-so... don't expect it to wow you too much... it is an imitation of the real apple os, but of course as most imitation are... they are not the original and there are bound to be some bugs.

(Btw if you happen to come to Singapore again, perhaps you could visit a place called Sim Lim Square, which is near this Bugis MRT. Ask your relative, she should be quite familiar with that place. The Sim Lim Square is like a Singapore version of the Chinese electronic city where you might be able to get many lookalike and at quite a reasonable price too.)
 
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rhino123 said:
Can't help you much in Beijing, my area of function is mostly in Dongguan and Shenzhen. However I believe all the chinese cities are almost the same, so you could just ask around for this place called electronic city (电子城）and most probably you would find a great amount of look alikes in there.

Actually the software of the apple lookalike is so-so... don't expect it to wow you too much... it is an imitation of the real apple os, but of course as most imitation are... they are not the original and there are bound to be some bugs.

(Btw if you happen to come to Singapore again, perhaps you could visit a place called Sim Lim Square, which is near this Bugis MRT. Ask your relative, she should be quite familiar with that place. The Sim Lim Square is like a Singapore version of the Chinese electronic city where you might be able to get many lookalike and at quite a reasonable price too.)
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Thanks for the info, meanwhile my love affair with this Saga Cell Phone I got is fast comiing to an end as half the functions dont work properly, or below the standard which one is led to believe its capable of. bit of a pity really, but still I never expected great things from it. Anyway my wife has got another 3 months there before heading home, enough time to to have a good look around, shes coming home via Hk and Singapore.

In Beijing uni theres a community of shops that service most student needs, tucked behind these shops are dozens of self employed people , trying to make a living from various services, in meeting students needs.

She found one guy who was running one of these business who fixed her zipper on her computer bag and all he wanted in payment was 2yuan. She reckoned the job would have cost a minimum of $10 in NZ, well to cut a long story short she gave the guy a little bit more than he was asking, and upon hindsight she was wondering, whether she was embarrassing the guy by coming across as too patronising. After all If thats what the man wanted for his services, she should have paid him that amount and left it at that. But apparantly the mans surrounds, suggested he could do with a break, even if it was giving him a dollar xtra.
 
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Yeah, when I was in Guangzhou a guy on the street patched up my shoes (there were lots of holes in it) for about the same price, and it was so ridiculously low I tried to give a tip but he refused to take it.
 
rhino123

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Yeah, that is always the case. I wonder how the Chinese actually survive on these low prices. Most of my colleagues and myself when we are there in China, we grabbed as much electronic stuffs, accessories for our mobile phone, etc, as our baggage could carry... all at a fraction of what it costs in Singapore...

I was a designer in small consumer electronic products and I am familiar with the cost for the material, R&D and toolings for these product... but found that we could never match what the Chinese had to offer.

Also their service is so excellent...
 
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rhino123 said:
Actually, the Lenovo are Andriod base product, which mean the OS is already more or less standard.

However I think what could better be seen as an individually developed Chinese Apple Lookalike is the following,

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The meizume obviously is a good Chinese brand, the price for their phone is not cheap either. And had really superd reviews... excellent and responsive OS. It really is a cool phone to have.
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Many fake iPhone like Meizu uses some OS like Windows Mobile, then dress it up to look like iPhone. Now they're shifting to use Google Android, including Meizu. They take Android and dress it up to look like iPhone.
 
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crobato said:
Many fake iPhone like Meizu uses some OS like Windows Mobile, then dress it up to look like iPhone. Now they're shifting to use Google Android, including Meizu. They take Android and dress it up to look like iPhone.
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That is one thing that I don't understand about the Chinese. They had the knowledge and the necessary skills to create something which looked like the Apple OS, why don't they design and create something totally new and original and sell it out using their own brand.

I believe they should be able to do it... but they are not doing it...
 
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rhino123 said:
That is one thing that I don't understand about the Chinese. They had the knowledge and the necessary skills to create something which looked like the Apple OS, why don't they design and create something totally new and original and sell it out using their own brand.

I believe they should be able to do it... but they are not doing it...
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Mainly because there is no point in reinvention for nationalistic purposes. Since Android is already open source as in Linux, you're free to do what you wish. The stuff Lenovo did on the Android based LePhone just looks crazy, and its almost unrecognizable from stock Android.

Samsung is trying to invent its own mobile OS now with its Bada project. That's an example of nationalistic reinvention. But other than mobile developers in Korea, how many developers in the rest of the world are planning to make apps for it? Its hard to be original with a UI anyway, anything you do is going to look like this and that because you're walking on a path already threaded by others. Bada for instance, looks a bit of Android + Symbian put together, in my opinion.

The UI is not something that's actually important. What's important is that the OS gets to support mobile applications written by the Chinese developer community to suit local demands. Things like a Baidu app or a Taobao app. Examples would be mobile apps to support Chinese social networking sites, especially since micro-blogging, which is the generic name for Twitter, is taking off in China. Not saying Chinese use Twitter, at least not without a VPN, but there are Chinese microblogging and Twitter like networks.

One of the things that actually made Apple iPhone take off in China is when an official CCTV mobile app became available which lets people watch their favorite CCTV program on the go.

China actually does have the largest mobile TV network in the world, do you know that?
 
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crobato said:
Mainly because there is no point in reinvention for nationalistic purposes. Since Android is already open source as in Linux, you're free to do what you wish. The stuff Lenovo did on the Android based LePhone just looks crazy, and its almost unrecognizable from stock Android.

Samsung is trying to invent its own mobile OS now with its Bada project. That's an example of nationalistic reinvention. But other than mobile developers in Korea, how many developers in the rest of the world are planning to make apps for it? Its hard to be original with a UI anyway, anything you do is going to look like this and that because you're walking on a path already threaded by others. Bada for instance, looks a bit of Android + Symbian put together, in my opinion.

The UI is not something that's actually important. What's important is that the OS gets to support mobile applications written by the Chinese developer community to suit local demands. Things like a Baidu app or a Taobao app. Examples would be mobile apps to support Chinese social networking sites, especially since micro-blogging, which is the generic name for Twitter, is taking off in China. Not saying Chinese use Twitter, at least not without a VPN, but there are Chinese microblogging and Twitter like networks.

One of the things that actually made Apple iPhone take off in China is when an official CCTV mobile app became available which lets people watch their favorite CCTV program on the go.

China actually does have the largest mobile TV network in the world, do you know that?
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Yes I understand and fully agreed with what you have pointed out. And I have no problem with them using the Android OS... however what I have problem with is, why do they keep wanting to do something that look like Apple? Many of the brand even make their product look exactly like Apple iPhone... with more functions in it.

I mean, come on, the chinese is innovative enough and with enough skills and technology to create something special and I would say, in many ways better, why to they want to imitate Apple iPhone... right down to the logo - example - Golden Apple.
 
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Mcsweeney

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Knock off products are rampant because there is such a large market for it. If you're a tech wiz looking to make a quick buck, it's much easier and less risky to just make a replica of an already existing brand name and sell it. Much easier than spending all the time, money, and effort on designing your own original product. On top of that, you have to convince people to buy your unknown product instead of a straightforward iPhone copy. The same goes for clothes and anything else.

This is why I refused to buy knock off products when I was in China. Don't encourage them. It will never end as long as there is a market for it. I'll take the cheesy yet charming waving Chairman Mao watch instead of the fake Rolex, thanks.
 
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