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horse

Brigadier
Registered Member
The NATO part isn't going well either:

Just realized something, reading all these reports about who does not want to put their warships near the Strait of Hormuz.

Which is everybody, no one wants to go.

That only shows that having a targeting ability, cough cough, China and Russia, and having precision strike capabilities which everyone can have if they put some effort into it, then anyone such as Iran can wage a modern war.

This is important because seems like everyone has figured that out, expect for the Trump administration.

Just like what General Collin Powell said to Dubya Bush, when the president wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein, "You break it, you bought it."

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Randomuser

Major
Registered Member
The NATO part isn't going well either:
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"You're going to get considered."
Remember when people keep talking about China having no allies or friends?

How's that working for America's "allies" or "friends"?

Turns out when things are tough, these friendly relationship don't look so friendly after all huh? But it doesn't matter. They're gonna do what Uncle Sam tells them because they are not in an equal relationship.
 

Thecore

Junior Member
Registered Member
Remember when people keep talking about China having no allies or friends?

How's that working for America's "allies" or "friends"?

Turns out when things are tough, these friendly relationship don't look so friendly after all huh? But it doesn't matter. They're gonna do what Uncle Sam tells them because they are not in an equal relationship.
Trump should bomb all the ungrateful bastards.
 

jiajia99

Senior Member
Registered Member
The NATO part isn't going well either:
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"You're going to get considered."
Seriously did trump think he is God gift to the world or something

Trump should bomb all the ungrateful bastards.
I would argue that the USA is the ungrateful bastards that keeps on dragging other nations into adventures most people would reject because of the sheer stupidity of it. The USA milk all those good favours for all that it is worth So the USA should learn to either reward its Allies for their the help or simply GTFO if they have nothing to offer
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I think NATO is willing to chip in, but America's allies are primarily followers, not leaders. If they are to participate, the US needs to lead the way. I mean, from the Europeans' perspective, they need the strait to open but they don't have enough leverage over the US, so they can only pressure Iran. However, without overwhelming American support, they really can't do much either.

If Trump is willing to commit to a ground invasion, at least to occupy the coastal areas, then the Europeans will probably be willing to at least provide air and naval support.

NATO is more than happy to join in to curbstomp some hopelessly outmatched nation who cannot fight back.

But Iran has shown beyond all doubt that they can and will fight back, so this isn’t some fun human safari they are being asked to join in on, but an actual shooting war where there is a very real and very credible chance that they will be found out as total paper tigers.

Let’s not forget the litany of errors and minor calamities European navies suffered during their little skirmish with the Houthis. Bring that level of ineptitude against the Iranians and you are liable to loose warships.

Besides, with the war Trump is threatening ground war, contributing naval forces seems destined to put you on the slippery slope that will end up with your own ground troops being sent into the shit alongside American ones. The deal is that by joining NATO, European nations can ride the coattails of the Americans and draw down their own defence spending tucked safely behind America’s skirts. Is it any wonder they are all having second thoughts about the whole arrangement now that America is calling them to join it in a suicide pact to advance Israeli territorial ambitions on all its neighbours?
 
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