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bajingan

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Is that confirmed though that it would collapse those economies? China itself would also incur considerable damage as trade flows both ways (i.e. loss of export value). Trade with these countries accounts for 40-45% of total Chinese trade.
I think Japan depends like 90% of their fertilizer and almost 100% of antibiotics used to prevent infection in surgeries from Chinese imports, not to mention heavy rare earths. So if China wants to, she can inflict catastrophic damage to Japan with minimum cost
 

CMP

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"lmao indians trying to steal credit for this invention now"

I don't know if you're referring to the twitter/x replies (and I'm not going to sign up to find out), but if by "this invention" you mean Arabic numerals, Indian claims of credit are *correct*. So-called "Arabic" numerals and other crucial mathematical advances, including algebra, actually originated in India and were transmitted to the West through Arabs and Persians.

It's a shame that claims of vimanas, nuclear weapons, etc. existing in ancient/premodern India overshadow the achievements that really did occur there. Credit where credit is due.
for the 999 times out of 1000 that they push lies, i'm not about to give a shit about the 1 time they tell the truth
 

PopularScience

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Awesome, now that b1tch's cabinet's domestic approval rating actually rises due to the b1tch's instigating a diplomatic scuffle with China!

Perhaps it's time to consider the avenue of hosting large-scale military exercises around the Ryukyu Island Chain and at the doorsteps of the Japanese home islands?

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I am relief. There are no innocent Japanese.
 

iewgnem

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Is that confirmed though that it would collapse those economies? China itself would also incur considerable damage as trade flows both ways (i.e. loss of export value). Trade with these countries accounts for 40-45% of total Chinese trade.

But do you want to leave this to the last minute? At that stage, US vassals are ready to die by creating conflict against China, but US enemies.. are they damaging US in equal magnitude or even willing to create conflict at all? Apart from Cuba, there isn't anyone near US to create conflict either.
It's not about if China will also incur damage, its about comparative damage. The west runs massive ($600B a year) trade deficit against China right now, since the utility of western currency to China will go to zero under this eventuality, it will be a net loss to China if it actually continue to trade with the west.

Russia is already in a conflict with the west, and Israel more important to America than America itself. China have a lot of button to push it push come to shove.

I think it's easier to just look at this from a larger perspective, once war starts, and a war with Japan is not a small war, the only thing that will matter is real, hard physical scientific, industrial and military power. Most of the basis of western power these days come from tools that only work under the assumption they themselves can stay out of or extricate themselves from any mess they start, the moment that assumption breaks down, the moment when hard power becomes paramount, and it will be in China's interest to make it so, the damage they can suffer can easily explode.

Case in point, a hard embargo against all Asian industrial export, from Mainland China, Korea, Taiwan, Japan and ASEAN, means the west loses access to all semiconductors, electronics and replacement parts, which in turn will not only shut down entirety of their industrial production but also agriculture, transportation, computing, energy, pharmacudicals, healthcare, education, even entertinament, basically everything you can name. Modern civilization runs on what Asia exports, there is no civilization once that's cut.
 
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iewgnem

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I think Japan depends like 90% of their fertilizer and almost 100% of antibiotics used to prevent infection in surgeries from Chinese imports, not to mention heavy rare earths. So if China wants to, she can inflict catastrophic damage to Japan with minimum cost
A hard embargo can involve a lot more than that, their geography is the same as WW2, but their population is now much larger. A hard embargo will literally be a humanitarian disaster on an unimaginable scale, and honestly, I don't think it's above China to do that to Japan.
 

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As Bitcoin rocketed in value, Qian could achieve what her company promised its investors - that they could "get rich while lying down". Her assistant Wen Jian - at her own trial last year, which culminated in a six-year jail term for money laundering - said Qian had spent most of her days lying in bed, gaming and online shopping.
 

CMP

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A hard embargo can involve a lot more than that, their geography is the same as WW2, but their population is now much larger. A hard embargo will literally be a humanitarian disaster on an unimaginable scale, and honestly, I don't think it's above China to do that to Japan.
They should start with a soft embargo and gauge actual international actions in response, as opposed to rhetoric.
 
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