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Sardaukar20

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Anduril's Palmer Luckney, the hippie CEO who had pitched about flooding Taiwan with cheap combat drones is being interviewed by Bloomberg.

Palmer Luckney told the interviewers that he and his company is proud to be sanctioned by China. That his supply chains now revolved around he US and allied countries. What he doesn't know is how supply chains work. His US and allied supply chains will never compensate for the volume and price of rare earths and components from China. Palmer can talk all he likes. Anduril will never approach a fraction of the economics of scale of even the Russian drone makers.
 
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Thecore

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These bandits are testing the waters to eventually steal Chinese government assets like they did to Russia. They start with stealing Chinese companies. If China allows this to happen and no consequences are had to the thief, the more Chinese assets will be stolen. Need a tough punishment for this blatant act of stealing. Must establish strong deterrence. Not the time to back down to these criminals.
I truly believe that Trump’s random opining on re-denominating the US currency to be backed by some kind of crypto stablecoin or even bitcoin and dissolving the Fed is deadly serious. This means any holder of US debt denominated in Federal Reserve Promissory Notes (ie. US dollar) is vastly undervaluating their risk profile. I think it’s completely within the realm of possibility that Trump and his neo-papal crusader clique actually believe they can “force through” the elimination of US debt with the stroke of a pen and the rest of the world will just have to eat it because of the current inertia and built in networks and size of American global economic reach, investor confidence in the US gov be damned. In short, these mofos are crazy and liable to do crazy shit.
 

GulfLander

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China’s response to this Dutch aggression should be to set a clear and unmistakable example. I would suggest the effective cancellation of ASML would be an appropriate response.

Do you think these western actions vs CN interests/ownerships are within CN's expectations during this cold war?
 

tygyg1111

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follow up on the Nexperia case; I think it goes without saying that China should just destroy all Dutch tech and invalidate all their patents and sanction key individuals involved in this; also, given the centrality of the Netherlands with the EU, we can take this as the EU’s response and consider this as them throwing their lot in with the Anglos.

tsk tsk tsk; white supremacy, even worse than crack it seems.

EDIT: maybe I’m thinking about this wrong; maybe the Europeans and Anglos are really thinking they don’t need to worry about laws and Chinese reprisals because they’ve already committed themselves to world war anyhow

EDIT 2: btw you guys should visit Tainan in Taiwan province and see the memorial at fort zeelandia of the Dutch surrendering to Koxinga. Apparently red hairs Dutch girls became concubines Koxinga afterwards.
I believe the Dutch were given 2 privileges for choosing surrender: their lives and the choice of whether to stay or go back to Holland - most of the women opted to stay.
 

Mt1701d

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Official document straight from Netherlands government website

Dunno about your coping, seems like straight up theft to me
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Trust me bro, it's really exceptional case. It's only going to happen once, will never again steal from you bro lol


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China’s response to this Dutch aggression should be to set a clear and unmistakable example. I would suggest the effective cancellation of ASML would be an appropriate response.

I am not sure if we are misunderstanding each other. I am not coping or saying that there should be no response.

What I am clarifying is that, the immediate, “I am going to bury you six feet under or the rabies infected Trump” style response is not the best course of action as it would involve the EU as a whole and therefore requires a more thorough and calculated response.

You don’t want to send a missile only for the primary target to escape with a few shallow cuts. If you are going to response then take them and everything else down with them. And in this case it’s need to investigated, calculated and decisive.

We don’t want to act prematurely and have the intended effect diminished. In this case go hard or go home, and if we are to go hard then make sure everything is torn down to the ground.

Edit: Conversely, the punishment for the Dutch/German person xxxx can be immediate and swift, cripple their careers, their family’s careers, their children future and then some to make sure that they know being ungrateful sh*t faces when someone literally just saved your a** is deserving of everything they have coming to them.
 
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plawolf

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I am not sure if we are misunderstanding each other. I am not coping or saying that there should be no response.

What I am clarifying is that, the immediate, “I am going to bury you six feet under or the rabies infected Trump” style response is not the best course of action as it would involve the EU as a whole and therefore requires a more thorough and calculated response.

You don’t want to send a missile only for the primary target to escape with a few shallow cuts. If you are going to response then take them and everything else down with them. And in this case it’s need to investigated, calculated and decisive.

We don’t want to act prematurely and have the intended effect diminished. In this case go hard or go home, and if we are to go hard then make sure everything is torn down to the ground.

China has already broken the so-called unity of the EU with its targeted sanctions against Lithuanian. It does not need to take on the whole EU to retaliate against the Dutch.

The problem with the calculated approach is that it is slow and too measured to really register with the goldfish memory Anglo led west. That’s part of the reason why the Dutch are trying their luck now, after seeing the Italians and British ‘get away’ with similar moves in the past.

China needs to send a strong, unambiguous signal that there are drastic consequences to crossing China like this, else the Americans will push more EU countries to join in and then it really will be a fight against the whole EU. As make no mistake, this is a calculated American strategy to sleepwalk the EU into a full on trade war with China, so that they can then join forces with the EU against China.

That is why the dominos will keep falling, and each future provocation will be more sever and blatant.

The Dutch were chosen to make this highly aggressive move because is an open secret ASML have kill switches in all the Litho machines they sell around the world. So they think they are immunise from Chinese retaliation due to the threat from those kill switches.

That’s also why China’s response needs to be massively disproportionate, to show the Dutch and the Americans that it’s ready, willing and able to kill the ASML golden goose dead. That’s basically threatening MAD in advanced chip manufacturing and calling their bluff on the kill switches.

If the west actually uses those kill switches, then ASML and the rest of global advanced chip manufacturing ends. With top end chips extinct, the one who has legacy chips inherit the throne. And guess who makes the overwhelming majority of legacy chips in the world. Not to mention Chinese advanced chip making equipment will be available at scale in a matter of years to replace ASML machines, while there is zero prospects on the horizon of the west getting alternative sources of rare earths needed to get their chip making back on track.

This is the new perfect timing and target for China to retaliate in a big way, and to be honest, I think China has been saving its dramatic overreaction for just such a target. Because let’s be honest, Italy is basically just a holiday and luxury bag maker these days, and the UK is both outside the EU and a manufacturing minnow. China can erase both economies and the rest of the EU will barely notice. Not so with the Dutch. Take them out and it will impact whole EU and America directly and massively. Which is why both the EU and America will apply maximum pressure for the Dutch to cave and surrender even as they publicly give them full support. It’s just too small and silly of a piece to risk their own collective economic futures over.

America is the puppet master. So the retaliation needs to hurt America just as much, and ideally a lot more, than the puppet.

That’s the key to understanding and countering the Anglos. They are absolutely fine with fighting to the last Ukrainian/Italian/Dutch/German/whoever, just so long as they themselves are not impacted. If you threaten their own economic prosperity in response, you think they would balk at making their minions eat shit and back down when they are prepared to march them to their literal deaths before?
 

Mt1701d

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China has already broken the so-called unity of the EU with its targeted sanctions against Lithuanian. It does not need to take on the whole EU to retaliate against the Dutch.

The problem with the calculated approach is that it is slow and too measured to really register with the goldfish memory Anglo led west. That’s part of the reason why the Dutch are trying their luck now, after seeing the Italians and British ‘get away’ with similar moves in the past.

China needs to send a strong, unambiguous signal that there are drastic consequences to crossing China like this, else the Americans will push more EU countries to join in and then it really will be a fight against the whole EU. As make no mistake, this is a calculated American strategy to sleepwalk the EU into a full on trade war with China, so that they can then join forces with the EU against China.

That is why the dominos will keep falling, and each future provocation will be more sever and blatant.

The Dutch were chosen to make this highly aggressive move because is an open secret ASML have kill switches in all the Litho machines they sell around the world. So they think they are immunise from Chinese retaliation due to the threat from those kill switches.

That’s also why China’s response needs to be massively disproportionate, to show the Dutch and the Americans that it’s ready, willing and able to kill the ASML golden goose dead. That’s basically threatening MAD in advanced chip manufacturing and calling their bluff on the kill switches.

If the west actually uses those kill switches, then ASML and the rest of global advanced chip manufacturing ends. With top end chips extinct, the one who has legacy chips inherit the throne. And guess who makes the overwhelming majority of legacy chips in the world. Not to mention Chinese advanced chip making equipment will be available at scale in a matter of years to replace ASML machines, while there is zero prospects on the horizon of the west getting alternative sources of rare earths needed to get their chip making back on track.

This is the new perfect timing and target for China to retaliate in a big way, and to be honest, I think China has been saving its dramatic overreaction for just such a target. Because let’s be honest, Italy is basically just a holiday and luxury bag maker these days, and the UK is both outside the EU and a manufacturing minnow. China can erase both economies and the rest of the EU will barely notice. Not so with the Dutch. Take them out and it will impact whole EU and America directly and massively. Which is why both the EU and America will apply maximum pressure for the Dutch to cave and surrender even as they publicly give them full support. It’s just too small and silly of a piece to risk their own collective economic futures over.

America is the puppet master. So the retaliation needs to hurt America just as much, and ideally a lot more, than the puppet.

That’s the key to understanding and countering the Anglos. They are absolutely fine with fighting to the last Ukrainian/Italian/Dutch/German/whoever, just so long as they themselves are not impacted. If you threaten their own economic prosperity in response, you think they would balk at making their minions eat shit and back down when they are prepared to march them to their literal deaths before?
I can agree that a quick response is desired, however what I am concerned with is fact that they involved an EU law rather than the Netherland’s own legal base for the decision, if a quick response is enacted without proper understanding of potential consequences there might be a fallout and result in the Western European countries banding together.

Even if the EU ends up fragmenting a little the resulting fallout will still be more detrimental to the Chinese cause and push the undecided countries into an alliance with the US for safety. Ultimately defeating the point of the response.

Edit: Frankly the timely smell really badly like a CIA psyop to provoke an overreaction from China, demolishing the company in question and all willing to associate with them right now is enough of a statement that should the EU try this sh*t again then you won’t get anything either. Going after the Netherlands and by extension the EU themselves requires a more measured and calculated response.
 
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GulfLander

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A fire broke out at a factory in the Indonesia Morowali Industrial Park (IMIP) in Morowali Regency, Central Sulawesi, on Sunday morning (October 12, 2025). The factory, PT Sulawesi Nickel Cobalt (SLNC), injured three workers with burns.
 
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