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iewgnem

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AssassinsMace said:
CNN was warning its viewers it was about to air the footage of Kirk getting shot and they cut it off right before. That was nothing to warn anyone about and the sickos wanted people to think they're were going to show it. Seeing that video now... that was disturbing. You knew they couldn't save him.
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It's called a teaser so people go look it up.
 
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Iracundus said:
If a major artery like the carotid artery is hit (as appears to be the case in that video from the exact location of the hit in the neck), the blood loss is catastrophic. I am speaking as someone who has known someone who got stabbed in the carotid artery, unless the person is like literally standing just outside a major hospital Emergency Department trauma center, it's not possible to save as the blood would gush out faster than it's possible to replace. Even in the stabbing case, 5 units of blood were used in the space of a few minutes, and the goal was simply to keep the patient alive long enough for the trauma surgeons to close the carotid injury. Amazingly this was done and the patient was discharged from ICU a week later, though with obvious psychological trauma from the near death injury. However a single knife stab laceration is more easily repaired than the likely more ragged wound caused by a high powered bullet.

No medic on site would have been able to save this guy as the resources simply weren't there.
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Not to mention getting shot in the carotids like that with a bullet that is 5.56mm or above would likely be enough to have caused damage to all of the internal structures of the cervical area as well if it tumbled a bit. Apart from the blood vessels, I wouldn't be surprised if the spinal cord was damaged, which would certainly cause him to droop like that immediately after the shot. Trachea, neck muscles wouldn't have had a good time either.

To survive something like this I imagine you'd literally need to be already hooked up with IVs/central lines and multiple bags of blood on the go, already laying in theater of a tertiary hospital, anaesthetized and appropriately ventilated, with scrubbed up world class trauma and vascular surgeons all prepped and literally standing right by him... and that's just to keep him from dying from the shot which they would have maybe a couple of minutes to prevent; recovering function would be probably impossible.


So yeah. Unsurvivable in this context.
 
Neurosmith

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Blitzo said:
Not to mention getting shot in the carotids like that with a bullet that is 5.56mm or above would likely be enough to have caused damage to all of the internal structures of the cervical area as well if it tumbled a bit. Apart from the blood vessels, I wouldn't be surprised if the spinal cord was damaged, which would certainly cause him to droop like that immediately after the shot. Trachea, neck muscles wouldn't have had a good time either.

To survive something like this I imagine you'd literally need to be already hooked up with IVs/central lines and multiple bags of blood on the go, already laying in theater of a tertiary hospital, anaesthetized and appropriately ventilated, with scrubbed up world class trauma and vascular surgeons all prepped and literally standing right by him... and that's just to keep him from dying from the shot which they would have maybe a couple of minutes to prevent; recovering function would be probably impossible.


So yeah. Unsurvivable in this context.
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Just out of personal curiosity, do you work in the medical field?

Not at all doubting your points, but the vernacular has some specific medical jargon.

Some are saying that the video is AI, but even if it is, getting shot in the neck is pretty much unsurvivable given how much critical tissue is in the area.

And, those celebrating or laughing at his death really should take a good look at themselves (not you obviously but some others).
 
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sndef888 said:
Hopefully this ignites chaos in the imperial heartland, just like they've been doing to countries across the world for decades
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Given trumps current actions causing a crisis throughout the world and especially his brain dead stupid punk arse support for the genocide happening, this would be long overdue and maybe a chance for the world to finally catch a break. Because this actions have made it impossible to deny that Israel and the USA literally profit from the deaths of the innocent in countless numbers and anything that makes these evil people suffer cannot be all that bad especially given how weak the USA is in letting such a mad man in to the Oval Office in the first place. Heck I am now convinced that the majority of the USA (particularly the red necks) have no empathy whatsoever
 
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Neurosmith said:
Just out of personal curiosity, do you work in the medical field?

Not at all doubting your points, but the vernacular has some specific medical jargon.

Some are saying that the video is AI, but even if it is, getting shot in the neck is pretty much unsurvivable given how much critical tissue is in the area.

And, those celebrating or laughing at his death really should take a good look at themselves (not you obviously but some others).
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Bltizo’s day job is a doctor. The fact that a doctor and a school teacher are two of the most reliable Western OSINT on PLA development shows just how dysfunctional the intelligence apparatus is in the West.
 
Blitzo

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Neurosmith said:
Just out of personal curiosity, do you work in the medical field?

Not at all doubting your points, but the vernacular has some specific medical jargon.
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Yeah.
My specialty is quite far from surgery, but everyone gets time in theater as part of medical training.
I'm sure there must be a few actual surgeons on this forum though, they are probably better suited to say more (if there's even anything more to say other than "it's unsurvivable")


Neurosmith said:
Some are saying that the video is AI, but even if it is, getting shot in the neck is pretty much unsurvivable given how much critical tissue is in the area.

And, those celebrating or laughing at his death really should take a good look at themselves (not you obviously but some others).
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I imagine people who initially thought the video was AI only saw one angle of it. There's a fair few angles of the same thing now such that the outcome shouldn't really be a surprise.
 
FriedButter

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Both initial suspects have been released. So the 2 videos spreading around social media aren’t the shooter. They haven’t even found the shooter yet.

2 earlier suspects in Charlie Kirk's killing are not tied to the shooting and were released, police say​

From CNN's Taylor Romine
Two people who were considered suspects in the shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk were later released as neither have “current ties to the shooting ,” the Utah Department of Public Safety said in a statement.
One person was charged with obstructing university police, as they previously announced during a news conference, but the department didn’t say why either person was considered a suspect.
“There is an ongoing investigation and manhunt for the shooter,” they said.
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