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plawolf

Lieutenant General
This is bad news. I think China has to work on their defense system more. First it was the HQ9 defense system for Pak that didn't shoot down Brahmos on many occasions.

Only the offensive system seems to be working as expected.

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Seems like obvious bullshit invented by the western MSM to smear China.

You have the usual red flags of anonymous former foreign officials making generalised allegations never before aired that sounds just plausible enough without much in the way of specifics that can be fact checked.

The one specific claim made immediately sounds like utter bullshit that a laser needed to continuously lase a target for 15-30 minutes to bring it down. At what range and approach speed does he think those engagements are taking place to give the laser that kind of engagement time?! Clearly whoever invented that claim didn’t pass kindergartens maths, so obviously American.

Similarly, arguing that you needed line of sight to engage targets and claiming that to be a notable limiting factor for the Saudi local environment displays a clear lack of basic understanding of weapons engagement, laser point defence effective ranges and local geography.

Lasers, especially small ones like what is used, will not have engagement ranges above double digits KMs. The targets the Chinese lasers were deployed to defend were generally oil refineries and the like, which didn’t have any line of sight limitations. Not only did whoever invented those claims not have any real local knowledge, they were also incredibly lazy to not even bother with basic research.

On balance, this feels like a ChatGPT written trash piece that some intern cooked up.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Nothing is cheap in the US. You can have crappy and expensive in the US but not good and cheap. Everything is expensive in the US because that's how it works. No one does anything if they're not going to profit by it. So all these military tech bros are in to getting big expensive government contracts to develop that doesn't have any oversight. Just like US charities hide behind "administrative costs", these tech bros can hide behind "development costs". It was found that fifty thousand US military supply chain lines start in China. And John McCain made a big deal when one computer chip made in China was found on the F-35. That's what these tech bros are doing. They have to show something to the US military to get a contract or get investors. They buy technology from China so they can make a working prototype to show off and to get a contract. Using Chinese technology is no problem. They'll just ask for more money to clone Chinese technology because they already got the government on a hook. They can either do that or like how John McCain found out, they can just use the money to buy the Chinese parts and make more money that way instead of relying on expensive US means of production.

No wonder Palmer Luckey made that Tiananmen Square cope comment after the parade. His CCA looks impotent to what China has. Everyone that looks at his are going see China's in their heads first.
 

supersnoop

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The narrative of the Qiaolong emporer being ignorant and arragont leader honestly needs to die because the truth is that he limited trade with the west because he was aware of the Brits using trade to establish monopolies and take over India and Malaya because the Qing dynasty had traders there. Also alot of westerners already operated during the Qing dynasty pre Opium wars, how else do you think Voltaire got inspiration from the Qing dynasty. The narrative was established by the western world rewriting history and the early KMT being brainwashed by it and making it common knowledge. The Qing dynasty despite being infamously weak managed to keep most of their gains for future government and even gave France(Yunnan) and Russia(Xinjiang) a bloody nose.
China already had regular contact and trade with the West by the Ming Dynasty. That’s why we hear about “antique Ming vases” from pop culture.
 

pmc

Colonel
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This is bad news. I think China has to work on their defense system more. First it was the HQ9 defense system for Pak that didn't shoot down Brahmos on many occasions.

Only the offensive system seems to be working as expected.

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you can find stuff like EV ranges and other short comings of EVs (suspension cannot cope with desert travel, heat eating EV tires much sooner, air conditioning, brakes) when wealthy people put them in long term test and than gave them to there servants as used cars. The point i am making you should not expect these thing to work on there standards . Just look at price of deals they do with Boeing and Airbus. Its always seem way higher to maintain best support.
Pantsir system that has long experience in Syria ( including dealing with Israel), Yemen, Libya but it still need many years of upgrade to reach to current standards for dealing with drones after Ukraine. The only system that Russia didnot have to upgrade is S-350. It worked right of the bat on HIMAR and ATACMS. just from Arabic coverage easy to figure out.

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According to reliable sources, the S-350 system boasts impressive operational capabilities. It can engage aerodynamic air targets, such as aircraft, drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and similar devices, at ranges of 120 to 150 kilometers, as well as effectively engage ballistic targets at a maximum range of 25 kilometers. He noted that while the S-350 anti-aircraft missile system is comparable to the Patriot, the Russian missiles are faster and can hit low-flying targets.

He said the Patriot system does not shoot down targets flying at an altitude of less than 100 meters, while the S-350 shoots down targets at an altitude of 10 meters and higher.
This "achievement" represents the first instance of the system operating fully automatically using artificial intelligence in combat conditions. At the time, the S-350 system was capable of operating in both active and passive radar modes simultaneously
 

daifo

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Even though I've been fully aware of CPV wouldn't join the US to attack China regardless of the reddit experts , I was always afraid of the US influence to Vietnam from the the SoCal AZN Baby Gurl w the Chanel/LV bags and the guys flexing their lifestye which could lead to a color revolution attempt. Apparently the CPV are aware and cracking down. The population is relearning about the recent war against colonialism. Now, the hip derogatory term is to call someone a "Cali"

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Thecore

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Hearing now the insecurity from US military tech bros because of the parade. Good luck finding the money for this guy’s idea of launching millions of drones onto China’s factories. Maybe he misspoke being a child acting like an adult but millions of $400,000 drones aren’t cheap.
The US has already broken the taboo of covertly assassinating Chinese engineers and civilians through their use of the Balochistan terrorists. China should seriously consider utilizing some of the same types of covert action that the US uses for those that are espousing high levels of dangerous bellicosity like this…
 

siegecrossbow

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Seems like obvious bullshit invented by the western MSM to smear China.

You have the usual red flags of anonymous former foreign officials making generalised allegations never before aired that sounds just plausible enough without much in the way of specifics that can be fact checked.

The one specific claim made immediately sounds like utter bullshit that a laser needed to continuously lase a target for 15-30 minutes to bring it down. At what range and approach speed does he think those engagements are taking place to give the laser that kind of engagement time?! Clearly whoever invented that claim didn’t pass kindergartens maths, so obviously American.

Similarly, arguing that you needed line of sight to engage targets and claiming that to be a notable limiting factor for the Saudi local environment displays a clear lack of basic understanding of weapons engagement, laser point defence effective ranges and local geography.

Lasers, especially small ones like what is used, will not have engagement ranges above double digits KMs. The targets the Chinese lasers were deployed to defend were generally oil refineries and the like, which didn’t have any line of sight limitations. Not only did whoever invented those claims not have any real local knowledge, they were also incredibly lazy to not even bother with basic research.

On balance, this feels like a ChatGPT written trash piece that some intern cooked up.

It is convenient that such news is coming out right after the disclosure of much more potent systems such as the OW-5 and LY-1 during the September 3rd parade. Obviously it is there to soothe hurt egos.

Silent Hunter performed so badly that the Saudi government gave awards to both the soldier performing the intercept and the Norinco engineers supporting the weapon.




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Seems like someone got themselves an official commendation for downing a lot of UAVs with the Silent Hunter.

Certificate for intercept.

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Skyshield laser anti-drone system developed by CETC successfully shot down 21 (Houthies) drones while defending Saudi Arabia's PAC-3 battery, shot down 36 drones in total in various countries, achieving a 100% first-time interception rate

"The command, electronic reconnaissance and jamming, radar, and laser interception capabilities of the protection systems have been fully tested."
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These jealous bitches should keep their traps closed instead of writing butthurt hit pieces. BTW, civilian variants in Russia are intercepting suicide drones so successfully that they formed the “NOMAD” division specifically for operators of Chinese DEW.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1kzey8z
 

Franklin

Captain
NBC covering Mach Industries. Similar to Anduril, this company envisions selling "cheap" drones to the US military for use against enemies like China. China has become a buzzword these days for military startups asking for funding and contracts.
The 21-year old CEO of Mach Industries, Ethan Thornton envisions swarms of cheap drones flying over populated areas (in China) to deliver their payload to destroy civilian infrastructure and factories. The objective is to shut down China's industries. So the new generation of US elites are dropping the "good guys" pretense. They are openly talking on mainstream media about targeting Chinese civilians to win a war. Depravity or copium? Maybe its both.

Anduril and Mach have been talking big about fighting an industrial drone war against the largest producer of drones and rare earths on the planet. The last time a smaller industrial power attacked a bigger industrial power and murdered its civilians, it didn't end well for the smaller one.
This kid does have some good ideas. Using massive amounts of low cost weapons to overwelm a small numbers of high tech and very expensive systems. And disperse your production facilities so they can't be taken out with just a few hits.

However I also think that what he is trying to do will not work. The US simply lacks the resources to compete against China in the long run. Especially when it comes to manpower and money. China graduates about 8 times the number of STEM students and twice the number of PhD's. I have heard about emigration and H1B visas. It doesn't matter you are not going to win a numbers game against China. And the Chinese saves up to 40 percent of their income while the Americans only saves about 3 to 5 percent of their income.

China also has structural advantages. China's economy is driven mainly by production while the US economy is driven mainly by speculation. And the Chinese value science, technology and industry much more than Americans in general. As China in the past was repeatedly defeated because its lacks the technological and industrial means to let her people prosper domestically and defend herself when attack from abroad.

At the end of the 1970s two things happened almost simultaneously in the world. China began to transition its economy from a command economy to a market economy. And the US began to transition its economy from a industrial economy to a services economy.

The result is today China is a industrial superpower and the US is a hedge fund with nukes.
 

pmc

Colonel
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It is "on par" on paper, but it is untested in battle though.

Ukraine uses some of the same defense system that Israel uses. Israel has an 95+% interception rate the first few days until ammo is dwindling.

China's Offensive weapon- good
Defensive-- unsure.
Ukraine is relying on ground radar and any thing that NATO can help with it from outside Ukraine borders. Ukraine has zero intercept of anything like Oniks (Odessa right next to Nato radars), Kh-32 or Kinzal. and the subsonic missiles if there are any will be with in visual range and even that they cannot produce evidence.
Israel has GaN high altitude AWACS with coverage extending all the way to Iran. there are much advance radars in Israel possession on ground and Iran certainly not have air force that give it real time coverage from side looking airborne radars like those in Su-34M or increasingly from Su-57.
 
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