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tamsen_ikard

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I gave credit to the offensive system but I still haven't seen a good article talking about china defensive system.

The way that Ukraine knock down 55 out of 60 missiles from Russia is insane. I don't believe in 100% defensive system. But to achieve Ukraine's interception rate, it is very satisfying.
Did they really knock down 55/60? Or is it a propaganda? Ukrainians have been lying a lot since the beginning of the war. If they were knocking down at that rate, Ukraine would have run out of missile long time ago.
 

Almond98

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I gave credit to the offensive system but I still haven't seen a good article talking about china defensive system.

The way that Ukraine knock down 55 out of 60 missiles from Russia is insane. I don't believe in 100% defensive system. But to achieve Ukraine's interception rate, it is very satisfying.
You really believe what they say? Now im not saying what russia is saying is true. Both tend to make false claim. But ukraine high interception rate is completely joke when they are getting hit harder by russian simple drone. As for china defense system you need read more on china SAM thread and you will realize they are on par with usa and russia.
 

Breadbox

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This is bad news. I think China has to work on their defense system more. First it was the HQ9 defense system for Pak that didn't shoot down Brahmos on many occasions.

Only the offensive system seems to be working as expected.

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Laser weapons are not ready for practical combat use, doesn't matter who made it. Its formal adoption is way too premature.
 
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bebops

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You really believe what they say? Now im not saying what russia is saying is true. Both tend to make false claim. But ukraine high interception rate is completely joke when they are getting hit harder by russian simple drone. As for china defense system you need read more on china SAM thread and you will realize they are on par with usa and russia.

It is "on par" on paper, but it is untested in battle though.

Ukraine uses some of the same defense system that Israel uses. Israel has an 95+% interception rate the first few days until ammo is dwindling.

China's Offensive weapon- good
Defensive-- unsure.
 

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The narrative of the Qiaolong emporer being ignorant and arragont leader honestly needs to die because the truth is that he limited trade with the west because he was aware of the Brits using trade to establish monopolies and take over India and Malaya because the Qing dynasty had traders there. Also alot of westerners already operated during the Qing dynasty pre Opium wars, how else do you think Voltaire got inspiration from the Qing dynasty. The narrative was established by the western world rewriting history and the early KMT being brainwashed by it and making it common knowledge. The Qing dynasty despite being infamously weak managed to keep most of their gains for future government and even gave France(Yunnan) and Russia(Xinjiang) a bloody nose.
 

tokenanalyst

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It is "on par" on paper, but it is untested in battle though.

Ukraine uses some of the same defense system that Israel uses. Israel has an 95+% interception rate the first few days until ammo is dwindling.

China's Offensive weapon- good
Defensive-- unsure.

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NOPE, Israel has a Multi-Country, Multi-Layered ground to air defense system consisting of The Patriot, THAAD, David Sling, Iron Dome and the Arrow Defense System. Is not even close to 95%, they still got wrecked.
 

FriedButter

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I remember the days when Ukraine said they shot down all but 1-3 missiles in a certain city and then videos get posted showing more than 3 missiles hitting targets in the very same city on that day. If pandering propraganda as copium is the only way to help you sleep. Then by all means. Keep posting.
 

lube

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It is "on par" on paper, but it is untested in battle though.

Ukraine uses some of the same defense system that Israel uses. Israel has an 95+% interception rate the first few days until ammo is dwindling.

China's Offensive weapon- good
Defensive-- unsure.

Do you really believe them when they keep claiming they shot down 105/110 missiles every big attack?
A lot of the inflated numbers are decoys and fake interceptions.

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Russia has developed and deployed several types of decoy drones to assist missile and drone strikes on Ukraine. This report discusses two of those decoy drones, the Gerbera (also known as Gerber) and the Parody (also known as Parodiya) UAVs that mimic the Shahed 136 and other drone systems. Both of these drones can be mass produced quickly and are built from simple materials like plywood, foam, and a few electronics, making them inexpensive compared to their more costly counterparts.

Ukraine has become increasingly proficient at identifying, tracking, and intercepting Russian airborne platforms, like missiles and drones. To increase the effectiveness of Russian barrages, these decoy drones are launched in large numbers alongside missiles and attack drones, like the Shahed 136 and Lancet-3, to overwhelm and confuse Ukrainian defenses to draw anti-aircraft fire on the decoys, allowing other weapons to reach their targets. Ukrainian defenders can never be entirely certain that an incoming drone does not carry an explosive warhead, forcing them to expend valuable munitions intercepting these drones. Because Ukraine has limited stockpiles of interceptor missiles, anti-aircraft artillery ammunition, and hunter-killer-drones, deploying decoy drones is a viable strategy to wear down Ukrainian defenders. Using decoy drones can also help Russian forces identify where Ukraine has positioned anti-aircraft defenses, radar, and electronic warfare systems, and target those in subsequent attacks.

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AsuraGodFiend

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It is "on par" on paper, but it is untested in battle though.

Ukraine uses some of the same defense system that Israel uses. Israel has an 95+% interception rate the first few days until ammo is dwindling.

China's Offensive weapon- good
Defensive-- unsure.
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only now they say lol Pakistan only had two or four batteries of HQ 9 with very limited network and such
 
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