In4ser
Junior Member
If anything, you are proving my point, that demographic decline is near impossible to avoid because of the achievements and advantages of modernity, especially for women. Asking them to sacrifice it all for the fertility rate is unreasonable. I'm not asking China to become a totalitarian state to maintain its birthrate, and have numerous times had to consider, "what must be sacrificed for it?"Ohhh Yeah they can, but the usual suspect are going to cry fault, in fact they are already complaining. I told you what will happen when the low birth rate hysteria go out of control, someone has to carry the burden of civilization, that will be the solution. If this hysteria continues countries are going from incentives to punishment like taxing the childless and single childless adults to pay for other people children, there is going to be a lot of pressure for single women and specially young women. This what these Social Science graduates demographers don't tell to people.
China is investing a lot in automation and AI to account for future population if this hysteria takes place and they have more than anticipated children that investment has to be reduced to take into account for future jobs.
No humans are not rats.
The biggest limiters of population growth has always been calories and health, a large population and drop in calorie intake? I don't care how high your birth rate is, your populations numbers are going down and fast. A killer virus appear and becomes endemic killing hundred of thousands per year, that is a drag in population growth, especially if the disease kill mostly children. Africa was a big example, huge birth rates but the population growth was limited by famine and diseases. But with trade, modern agriculture and modern healthcare the continent has put more people in 2 decades that in the last 100 years before combine. If the heavens forbid
something cause a deficit in calorie intake those population numbers could go down pretty fast.
Another example. The video says South Korea is going to have a lot elderly population, that the elderly is going to surpass the young by a lot, the reality is that if the healthcare system get overwhelmed because lack of funding or too many patients, they are going to become a young country really fast, they are likely to see the biggest drop in life expectancy in their history.
In others words what you are seeing today is something that has never happen in history, for the first time in history most women in this planet can decide when, how, how many, where AND even with who to have children. Feminist are going to tell you that the biggest win for women was voting or entering the workforce, I would say, personally, the biggest win for women was the invention of reproductive healthcare. Basically liberating them from early and unwanted motherhood which was the main driver of high birth rates in the past.
However, everyone should realize that Freedom and Responsibility are often opposing ideologies. The West wants you to believe liberty is the end-all and be-all of society, but because of it, the people have become weak and degenerate. Yet one person's utopia can often be another's dystopia. It's not a binary choice between the two, but about harmonizing for the best of both worlds.
My point is to emphasize the facts, so people are fully aware of the gravity of the situation. Whether the facts are acceptable is up to you to decide. I have already made my peace with China's inevitable decline, but I've also lived with most of my youth with China's humble obscurity and have been blessed to watch its ascendance. That's life, and like everything else, it must face entropic forces.