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FairAndUnbiased said:

Onyx came out before Iskander did, so how is it a next generation weapon? You are wrong.

Onyx: 2002

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FairAndUnbiased said:

Iskander: 2006

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Rounded to nearest million, Onyx is only $1M each. That's cheaper than Iskander at $3M.

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FairAndUnbiased said:

You lied twice about easily researchable numbers.

64 strikes is what fraction of total strikes?

Onyx doesn't even have a land attack sensor. It's an anti ship missile. Land attack has completely different requirements such as TERCOM and satellite navigation.

Maybe you should understand that there's a reason Onyx was only used a few times only against coastal targets and never again.

Next time don't lie about things that are easily verifiable.

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supersnoop said:

Curious as to why you chose the comparison of the J-10C to the F-16V? That is the 3rd tier fighter of the PLAAF. Those F-16Vs are the top tier of the ROCAF. They are going against the J-20 (at worst, for them, but these might be held back to face off against the US) or J-11/J-16.

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Laviduce said:

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Frank Dikötter is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who has recently returned to the United States after living in Hong Kong since 2006. In this provocative conversation, Dikötter challenges the prevailing narrative about China’s rise. Drawing from his latest book, China After Mao: The Rise of a Superpower, Dikötter argues that the Chinese Communist Party has masterfully projected the image of a powerful, modern, and economically dominant nation—but says that image is largely a façade.

TL;DW:

Frank Dikötter argues that China’s rise is deeply misunderstood: it's not a miracle of Communist Party planning but the result of ordinary Chinese villagers reclaiming economic freedom despite the Party. The CPC, still staunchly Marxist-Leninist, rules through fear, propaganda, and repression—especially of its own people. Economic growth has been overstated and heavily reliant on overproduction, WTO-enabled exports, and state control of key industries. Xi Jinping is no reformer but a paranoid authoritarian benefiting from past gains. China, he claims, is not a superpower but a fragile empire built on illusion, fear, and internal weakness. The West was naïve to believe engagement would liberalize China; instead, Dikötter recommends Cold War-style containment and patience—letting the regime rot from within.

Personal Opinion:

Listening to these neofascists/neo-imperialists makes me realize that these "fine" people and their apparatus have truly become adversaries of not only China and Russia but also the rest of free and sovereign countries and humanity as a whole. Who gave these Anglo-supremacists the right to rule over the rest of humanity ?

The amount of projection is off the charts. These far-right Neo-imperialist are desperate their dictatorship over the world will fall.

I fear that these lunatics, ghouls and liars in their desperation and fear might do something even more stupid (i.e. fanatic/fundamentalist) and plunge the world into another major conflict.

US and US vassal state interference in Hong Kong is ignored by neocon propagandists and painted as "delusion" by Dikötter and the other neocon regime bot:


Peter Robinson: "... But the notion that the United States was behind the democracy movement in Hong Kong or

that somehow or other it was capitalists who organized the events in Tiananman Square in 1989. That is delusional..."


Frank Dikötter: "...Yes and you know what it's called."


Peter Robinson: ".. So how do we deal with these people if they're delusional?"


Frank Dikötter: "It's very difficult... be very patient I would say peaceful evolution..."



Serious Question: How does China, Russia and the other free and sovereign nations plan to deal with these lying lunatics such as these ?

(Good Lord these people are insane/totally delusional and their projection is totally off the charts. Unreal!)

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pmc said:

Onyx for Russia where there was production stoppage. It was export cleared for India in 1990s. Its technology developed in 1970s.


Dont go by Russian numbers as we dont know what they include in each contract.

64 Missiles were Ukranian figure upto september 2023 and highly effective. This what Ukranian saying.
We dont know how many times it is used. but regardless it has never been used in saturated strikes or hidden in forests for surprize.
It is used right under NATO nose.
what date is written on this video?.
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FairAndUnbiased said:

So I said, Iskander is newer than Onyx, it was made in 2006 and Onyx was made in 2002, so Onyx is not a next generation weapon compared to Iskander.

You say "nah actually Onyx was made in 1990s and 1970s".

You do realize that Onyx being made earlier does not help you, right.

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December 7, 2022, 4:06 PM

The flight range of the Onyx supersonic missiles will increase to 1 thousand km​

According to the manufacturer, the maximum range of the Onyx in the export version is 300 km.
Earlier, TASS reported that the new mobile launcher created in Russia for the hypersonic missile "Zircon" will be able to launch supersonic missiles "Onyx", used both in the coastal missile system "Bastion" and on surface and underwater carriers.

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GZDRefugee said:

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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't him saying this a good thing? It's easiest to slit the throat of an enemy when they are asleep.

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Roads in central Seoul to be closed Friday as court delivers Yoon verdict​

SEOUL, April 1 (Yonhap) -- Roads near the Constitutional Court in central Seoul will be closed Friday as the court delivers its ruling on President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment, with massive rallies expected both in support of and against him, police said Tuesday.

The Constitutional Court earlier announced that it will deliver its ruling on Yoon's impeachment at 11 a.m. Friday, nearly four months after Yoon was impeached by the National Assembly on charges of violating the Constitution and laws through his brief imposition of martial law on Dec. 3.

Tens of thousands of people are expected to gather near the Constitutional Court, as well as in nearby areas, including Sejongdaero, Euljiro and Sajikro, on the day of the ruling, according to the police.

The Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency plans to deploy 810 personnel for traffic control and to minimize public inconvenience, it added.

Police advised the public to use public transportation or get updates on the latest traffic information in the event they use their own vehicles.

Police have partially closed roads connected to a junction near the Constitutional Court after it announced the date for Yoon's ruling earlier in the day.

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Police to deploy 14,000 personnel in Seoul as court poised to rule on Yoon's impeachment​

SEOUL, April 1 (Yonhap) -- Police have decided to deploy some 14,000 personnel in Seoul, according to sources familiar with the matter Tuesday, as the Constitutional Court is poised to rule on President Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment case later this week.

The court said it will deliver its verdict on whether to dismiss or reinstate Yoon over his failed martial law bid on Friday. For months, political polarization has deepened between supporters and opponents of Yoon's impeachment over his failed martial law bid.

The National Police Agency placed police forces on the "Gapho" alert, the highest level that puts all available police forces on emergency standby, starting Thursday midnight.

In addition, police will immediately arrest those who attempt to break into the Constitutional Court compound and beef up security service for all Constitutional Court justices.

Should Yoon decide to attend at the court for the verdict, police will take measures to secure the pathway from the presidential residence to the Constitutional Court, and separate the protesters calling for or against Yoon's impeachment on the way.

Yoon's legal representatives said a decision was yet to be made on whether Yoon will attend the court on Friday.

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pmc said:

yes. Original Onyx is much older missile but what i was referring to there technologies that are developed based on it that are next generation and they may not want to show every thing in Ukraine. Gulf Arabs diligently follow Onyx missile.

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pmc said:

you still not admitting that Ballistic missiles are less useful than Cruise missile for Surprize saturated attacks, logistics and storage. Ukraine got surprize. i am sure Russia used older stock in Ukraine.
unification with zircon.

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