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siegecrossbow

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But how can one be this delusional and pretend the US and its vassal states were not involved in the protests in Hong Kong when images showed their embassy goons literally with clipboards in hand meeting with protest "leaders" ??? This is the same shameless behavior they displayed with the 2014 US coup in Ukraine. It was "the people" that chose their government and anyone that says anything to the contrary is a propagandist. It totally ignores that Neocon goons like Victoria Nuland picked the successor government and installed dual US citizens in various "Ukrainian" government institutions. This blatant violation of sovereignty and international law by these "fine ladies and gentlemen" and then the nerve of regime propagandists and apparatchiks to just ignore these events is just disgusting.

The abhorrent believe by these neocons/neolibs/transatlanticists/western-dupremacists in their superiority over the rest of humanity is appalling. Just listen to these "clowns" at the far-right Hoover Institute.

It’s because they are the Brahmin caste in the current geopolitical order. Anything they do is right, anything the Dalits do is wrong.
 

Laviduce

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The term "Superpower" was created by Elitists Think Tanks Western Stooges Clowns <pretty much like Mr. Frank here> that see themselves above the rest of the world, China never claimed to be a "Superpower", they have always claimed to be a "nation among nations", the power projection of China is mainly to their core interests, like their territorial integrity, what China did was to invest in their country, in infrastructure, mobility, science, industry, education and technological research instead of 1000+ military bases, parasitic military alliances and the modern impossibility of nation building. And now many Western clowns stooges are surprised that the investment payoff. "OMG China is dominating EVs", of course, while US was throwing trillions in pointless wars and Europa was been slow as snail, China was investing in heavily in clean energy and new energy vehicles. These Think Tanks clowns stooges cannot gaslight people anymore with their crap.
Au contraire , the are hundreds of millions of people in the neocon/neolib controlled West that believe this nonsense wholeheartedly. Propaganda works folks (especially if it has been applied over decades)!

 

FairAndUnbiased

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subsonic cruise missiles are easy to intercept because the moment engine light up of a bomber it is already known the window of time when they will arrive. and these Nato Planes fly around Black Sea they can observe missile launches from ships/subs. but this truck mounted Onyx is a surprize. Ukranian think its hypersonic.
Supersonic cruise missiles are more compact than ballistic. so much easy to transport and store in larger quantities in hardened structures. I also have doubt Ballistic missiles are safe to launch near residential structures.
64 Onyx missile fired around Odessa as of Sept 2023 and not single known intercept even siren after explosion and the most destructive.






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Onyx flies high at 10 km and is easy to detect, it only descends to 10 m altitude during final approach.

It was only used a few times by Russia into Ukraine and then was useless the entire rest of the war while Iskander and Kalibr are still being used.

Onyx and Iskander have approximately the same weight: 3500 kg and 3800 kg respectively, so who is telling you it is more compact? And Onyx launches with a rocket booster too. In fact your video shows it launching with a rocket booster, disproving your own point.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Curious as to why you chose the comparison of the J-10C to the F-16V? That is the 3rd tier fighter of the PLAAF. Those F-16Vs are the top tier of the ROCAF. They are going against the J-20 (at worst, for them, but these might be held back to face off against the US) or J-11/J-16.
Not just that but what are they going to shoot with? They can load 4 AIM-120s per plane and that's it, they're out of missiles except for AIM-7s from 1960 that have comparable range with IR guided missiles. And AIM-120 itself is outranged by PL-15s.
 

Biscuits

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It’s because they are the Brahmin caste in the current geopolitical order. Anything they do is right, anything the Dalits do is wrong.
In their own delusional minds only. China doesn't give a shit about what a few weaker barbarian nations think. If they pose a threat to the line going up China, they will be dealt with.

Upon arrival, the British are also viewed by the hindu kingdoms as dalits.
 

han1289

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Frank Dikötter is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who has recently returned to the United States after living in Hong Kong since 2006. In this provocative conversation, Dikötter challenges the prevailing narrative about China’s rise. Drawing from his latest book, China After Mao: The Rise of a Superpower, Dikötter argues that the Chinese Communist Party has masterfully projected the image of a powerful, modern, and economically dominant nation—but says that image is largely a façade.

TL;DW:

Frank Dikötter argues that China’s rise is deeply misunderstood: it's not a miracle of Communist Party planning but the result of ordinary Chinese villagers reclaiming economic freedom despite the Party. The CPC, still staunchly Marxist-Leninist, rules through fear, propaganda, and repression—especially of its own people. Economic growth has been overstated and heavily reliant on overproduction, WTO-enabled exports, and state control of key industries. Xi Jinping is no reformer but a paranoid authoritarian benefiting from past gains. China, he claims, is not a superpower but a fragile empire built on illusion, fear, and internal weakness. The West was naïve to believe engagement would liberalize China; instead, Dikötter recommends Cold War-style containment and patience—letting the regime rot from within.


Personal Opinion:

Listening to these neofascists/neo-imperialists makes me realize that these "fine" people and their apparatus have truly become adversaries of not only China and Russia but also the rest of free and sovereign countries and humanity as a whole. Who gave these Anglo-supremacists the right to rule over the rest of humanity ?

The amount of projection is off the charts. These far-right Neo-imperialist are desperate their dictatorship over the world will fall.

I fear that these lunatics, ghouls and liars in their desperation and fear might do something even more stupid (i.e. fanatic/fundamentalist) and plunge the world into another major conflict.

US and US vassal state interference in Hong Kong is ignored by neocon propagandists and painted as "delusion" by Dikötter and the other neocon regime bot:


Peter Robinson: "... But the notion that the United States was behind the democracy movement in Hong Kong or

that somehow or other it was capitalists who organized the events in Tiananman Square in 1989. That is delusional..."


Frank Dikötter: "...Yes and you know what it's called."


Peter Robinson: ".. So how do we deal with these people if they're delusional?"


Frank Dikötter: "It's very difficult... be very patient I would say peaceful evolution..."



Serious Question: How does China, Russia and the other free and sovereign nations plan to deal with these lying lunatics such as these ?

(Good Lord these people are insane/totally delusional and their projection is totally off the charts. Unreal!)
Guy spent 20 years living in hongkong and this was his conclusion. These people are the cancer of the city
 

pmc

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Onyx flies high at 10 km and is easy to detect, it only descends to 10 m altitude during final approach.
if it was easy to detect than how come explosions heared before the sirens according to Ukranian.
these are fired from Crimea coast easily visible to every one. the picture that i posted was from Syria to show that this missile can be launched from near buildings. The mainstream of Arab media is saying this model has some stealth and EW resistant feature. the rest is general specifications.

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It was only used a few times by Russia into Ukraine and then was useless the entire rest of the war while Iskander and Kalibr are still being used.
Ukranian count 64 times upto Sept 2023 when Ukranian publish that info and they published the damages. Iskander and Kaliber are much cheaper missiles. Onyx and technological solutions based on it are for next generation weopons that they may not want to use it current conflict.

Onyx and Iskander have approximately the same weight: 3500 kg and 3800 kg respectively, so who is telling you it is more compact? And Onyx launches with a rocket booster too. In fact your video shows it launching with a rocket booster, disproving your own point.
They dont have same weight. The problem with Russian specification is that they put general info that get staled over decades.
Air Launched version of Onyx can easily be integrated into Su-30 if Russia really want it. even three of the missiles.
while the air launched version of Aeroballistics missile is for next weight class like Su-34 and MIG-31K.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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if it was easy to detect than how come explosions heared before the sirens according to Ukranian.
these are fired from Crimea coast easily visible to every one. the picture that i posted was from Syria to show that this missile can be launched from near buildings. The mainstream of Arab media is saying this model has some stealth and EW resistant feature. the rest is general specifications.

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Ukranian count 64 times upto Sept 2023 when Ukranian publish that info and they published the damages. Iskander and Kaliber are much cheaper missiles. Onyx and technological solutions based on it are for next generation weopons that they may not want to use it current conflict.


They dont have same weight. The problem with Russian specification is that they put general info that get staled over decades.
Air Launched version of Onyx can easily be integrated into Su-30 if Russia really want it. even three of the missiles.
while the air launched version of Aeroballistics missile is for next weight class like Su-34 and MIG-31K.

Onyx came out before Iskander did, so how is it a next generation weapon? You are wrong.

Onyx: 2002

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Iskander: 2006

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Rounded to nearest million, Onyx is only $1M each. That's cheaper than Iskander at $3M.

You lied twice about easily researchable numbers.

64 strikes is what fraction of total strikes?

Onyx doesn't even have a land attack sensor. It's an anti ship missile. Land attack has completely different requirements such as TERCOM and satellite navigation.

Maybe you should understand that there's a reason Onyx was only used a few times only against coastal targets and never again.

Next time don't lie about things that are easily verifiable.
 

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Frank Dikötter is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution who has recently returned to the United States after living in Hong Kong since 2006. In this provocative conversation, Dikötter challenges the prevailing narrative about China’s rise. Drawing from his latest book, China After Mao: The Rise of a Superpower, Dikötter argues that the Chinese Communist Party has masterfully projected the image of a powerful, modern, and economically dominant nation—but says that image is largely a façade.

TL;DW:

Frank Dikötter argues that China’s rise is deeply misunderstood: it's not a miracle of Communist Party planning but the result of ordinary Chinese villagers reclaiming economic freedom despite the Party. The CPC, still staunchly Marxist-Leninist, rules through fear, propaganda, and repression—especially of its own people. Economic growth has been overstated and heavily reliant on overproduction, WTO-enabled exports, and state control of key industries. Xi Jinping is no reformer but a paranoid authoritarian benefiting from past gains. China, he claims, is not a superpower but a fragile empire built on illusion, fear, and internal weakness. The West was naïve to believe engagement would liberalize China; instead, Dikötter recommends Cold War-style containment and patience—letting the regime rot from within.


Personal Opinion:

Listening to these neofascists/neo-imperialists makes me realize that these "fine" people and their apparatus have truly become adversaries of not only China and Russia but also the rest of free and sovereign countries and humanity as a whole. Who gave these Anglo-supremacists the right to rule over the rest of humanity ?

The amount of projection is off the charts. These far-right Neo-imperialist are desperate their dictatorship over the world will fall.

I fear that these lunatics, ghouls and liars in their desperation and fear might do something even more stupid (i.e. fanatic/fundamentalist) and plunge the world into another major conflict.

US and US vassal state interference in Hong Kong is ignored by neocon propagandists and painted as "delusion" by Dikötter and the other neocon regime bot:


Peter Robinson: "... But the notion that the United States was behind the democracy movement in Hong Kong or

that somehow or other it was capitalists who organized the events in Tiananman Square in 1989. That is delusional..."


Frank Dikötter: "...Yes and you know what it's called."


Peter Robinson: ".. So how do we deal with these people if they're delusional?"


Frank Dikötter: "It's very difficult... be very patient I would say peaceful evolution..."



Serious Question: How does China, Russia and the other free and sovereign nations plan to deal with these lying lunatics such as these ?

(Good Lord these people are insane/totally delusional and their projection is totally off the charts. Unreal!)
A Cold War relic who lives in his own world and confuses wishful thinking with strategy - safe to ignore completely. He is just one of the "copium vendors". From yesterday:

Liberation day:

Oops, the US has to prepare for the breach of the "1st Island Chain" now.

U.S. bolsters 'second island chain' defense with eye on China​

Investment on Pacific island reflects threat of Beijing's growing missile capabilities
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Go ahead, bomb Iran, and get stuck in another unending war in West Asia and pushes Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
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Gordon G. Chang, nuff said.
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