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tygyg1111

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I do hope that the US won't end up in a climatic civil war once again, now with nuclear weapons. Or it may become more and more as a confederacy like EU after a brief skirmish with itself, lead by Cali vs Texas. Lol. Reminds me of the world of horizon zero dawn, where Elon Musk is reminiscent of Ted Faro. Hahaha
won't? A civil war in the US would guarantee world peace for the next 200 years. Also there's a chance we could get California as a new territory
 

TPenglake

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I do hope that the US won't end up in a climatic civil war once again, now with nuclear weapons. Or it may become more and more as a confederacy like EU after a brief skirmish with itself, lead by Cali vs Texas. Lol. Reminds me of the world of horizon zero dawn, where Elon Musk is reminiscent of Ted Faro. Hahaha
Great empires come and ago. Some are lucky to endure in a dimished form ie. Europe, China's the outlier in that it endures united and strong but that's a dead horse I won't continue to kick, and then there's those that disappear entirely, ie. the Romans. Those that disappear entirely often leave a legacy to remind us of their greatness, Rome has the Colosseum and the Incas have Machu Pichu.

Should the US meet that fate, I wonder what they'll leave behind? Boarded up houses, abandoned strip malls, empty gas stations, and skyscrapers with weeds? Yeesh, no matter how funky aesthetic tastes get in the future, I can't imagine such sites will ever make for good ruin tourism.
 

doggydogdo

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They ended up in an awkward situation where they could no longer feed their people (civil economy) and fund their gigantic military industrial complex at the same time, the leadership had to make a choice. Gorbachev said f*ck it and chose the civil economy. This didn't help because military spending made up 15% of GDP and the MIC constituted a significant chunk of its economy, its near shutdown reverberated across the entire economy and made an already dire situation worse. The Soviet people, including many in the Communist Party (aside from a few Stalinists), especially the mid to lower level functionaries, grew disillusioned with the whole communist project and helped bring the system down. This was made easier because the ethnic minorities, with the absence of funds coming from the central government, no longer had an incentive to subordinate themselves to Moscow.

The result: a state that can't control its internal borders, military, and feed itself at the same time is no longer viable and so the USSR ceased to exist.
You said Soviet Union badly needed reform than said that reform caused the whole thing to fall down. Pre-reform Soviet Union was doing fine by most measures, soviets under Brezhnev had slow but steadily growth in every sector. Reforms ruined everything that's why Soviet Union fell, if you think Soviet Union fell because it couldn't provide to its citizens you would be wrong since post soviets states were MUCH worse and they didn't fall. Soviet Union could have survived if it wasn't for Gorbachev's dumb reforms.
 
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