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Phead128 said:

Apparently Modi and Xi met together atleast 18 times in past 10 years (average 2 times per year).

They even informally meet during the Doklam tensions (2 times) and post-Galwan tensions (3 times), which shows that both sides want to keep things manageable.

Select Key Meetings between PM Modi and Xi Jinping

Meeting	Date	Location	Tension Context
Brics Summit	July 15-16, 2014	Fortaleza, Brazil	Pre-Doklam
Xi Jinping's State Visit to India	September 17, 2014	India	Pre-Doklam
PM Modi's visit to China	May 14-16, 2015	China	Pre-Doklam
G20 Summit	September 4-5, 2016	Hangzhou, China	Pre-Doklam
BRICS Summit	October 15-16, 2016	Goa, India	Pre-Doklam
SCO Summit	June 9, 2017	Astana, Kazakhstan	During Doklam
G20 Summit	July 7, 2017	Hamburg, Germany	During Doklam
Brics Summit	September 5-6, 2017	Xiamen, China	Post-Doklam
Wuhan Informal Summit	April 26-27, 2018	Wuhan, China	Post-Doklam
SCO Summit	June 9, 2018	Qingdao, China	Post-Doklam
Mamallapuram Informal Summit	October 11-12, 2019	Mamallapuram, India	Pre-Galwan
G20 Summit	November 15-16, 2022	Bali, Indonesia	Post-Galwan
Brics Summit	August 22-24, 2023	Johannesburg, South Africa	Post-Galwan
BRICS Summit	October 23, 2024	Kazan, Russia	Post-Galwan

So what I can tell is that both sides is managing the tensions quite well throughout Doklam and Galwan. These are quite frequent visits despite tensions. They now "agree to disagree" to avoid blowing up the relationship.

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Modi's informal "meeting" with Xi is even more informal than Trudeau's meeting with Xi, Modi just striked a conversation when Xi walked by. It's so unofficial the Chinese side didn't even both reporting it.

Your chart would be more useful if it only counted the meetings reported by both sides, imo saying hi and small talk isn't a meeting.

daifo said:

The guy pushed racist and classist policy when he was in charge, hope he lives a long life in prison.

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The anglosphere in the forms of the five eyes necessarily must be destroyed if Chinese are to just live normal lives. The five eyes define their culture as that of white supremacy in an attempt to conquer all western and Eastern European countries under Anglo hegemony. this means the five eyes will never stop harassing Chinese as the Xiongnu never stopped harassing the Chinese, until they were made to stop by annihilation.

I guess they did not find any gold in the hospital's mortuary in the basement.

Haha we can understand your pain.

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coolgod said:

Modi's informal "meeting" with Xi is even more informal than Trudeau's meeting with Xi, Modi just striked a conversation when Xi walked by. It's so unofficial the Chinese side didn't even both reporting it.

Your chart would be more useful if it only counted the meetings reported by both sides, imo saying hi and small talk isn't a meeting.

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Why are you so hang up with India? why the f..k are we so animated against a country that is highly distrust by all sides. I have yet to ready any recommendations or idea from you that would differentiate and satiate your appetite against a country you seem to despise with gusto.

I guess if it's a token consolation to you and your like minded fellows that support the overt anti-India stance, there's many more Indians and unhinged idiots in India that despise this supposed agreement and thawing of relationship between China and India.

And I am going to say this again, India and its many deranged people ought to count their lucky stars that China is not under a useless western style democracy, otherwise people like yourself would have already formed some sort of voting block riling up the country people that the Chinese leadership have sold out against a recalcitrant and fascistic enemy that's India. Considering that if China was under such shitty system, the whole mentality and outlook of Chinese people would be like that of South Korea on steroids.

Geez, louis, most of us have been thoroughly penetrated by western ways of thinking when looking through global issues, international relations, military and politics. If the CPC were infected by such chauvinistic mindset that I too am guilty of exhibiting and expressing from time to time, we would have never seen the country grow into the power it has become. And for that, I thank the heavens and ancestors for not falling the path of the barbarians.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Why are you so hang up with India? why the f..k are we so animated against a country that is highly distrust by all sides. I have yet to ready any recommendations or idea from you that would differentiate and satiate your appetite against a country you seem to despise with gusto.

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Speaking for myself, it’s because the unscrupulous behaviour of Indians is incomprehensible to my worldview of common decency and self awareness. For instance, I would not be so shameless as to boast about things that were not true as Indians collectively do about India superpowah and have even been caught lying, nor would it ever occur to me to join in on a gang rape if I were to happen upon a woman being sexually assaulted and yet this is far too common an occurrence with Indians. In much the same way, any decent person would be shocked at the sociopathy of an Israeli Zionist, we would collectively be shocked at the sheer barbarity, dishonourable and cowardly behaviour of indians today. This kind of shameless sociopathy sticks with you as an evolutionary warning against cooperating against this band of people who would compromise the survival of your own clan. This is not unique amongst humans, even crows gossip and spread news about who is a cheapskate and they act accordingly, as richard Dawkins observed in his book “the selfish gene”.


strange behaviour, did this diplomat receive bad news from the Ukraine front? Pressure from BRICS?

Bellum_Romanum said:

Why are you so hang up with India? why the f..k are we so animated against a country that is highly distrust by all sides. I have yet to ready any recommendations or idea from you that would differentiate and satiate your appetite against a country you seem to despise with gusto.

I guess if it's a token consolation to you and your like minded fellows that support the overt anti-India stance, there's many more Indians and unhinged idiots in India that despise this supposed agreement and thawing of relationship between China and India.

And I am going to say this again, India and its many deranged people ought to count their lucky stars that China is not under a useless western style democracy, otherwise people like yourself would have already formed some sort of voting block riling up the country people that the Chinese leadership have sold out against a recalcitrant and fascistic enemy that's India. Considering that if China was under such shitty system, the whole mentality and outlook of Chinese people would be like that of South Korea on steroids.

Geez, louis, most of us have been thoroughly penetrated by western ways of thinking when looking through global issues, international relations, military and politics. If the CPC were infected by such chauvinistic mindset that I too am guilty of exhibiting and expressing from time to time, we would have never seen the country grow into the power it has become. And for that, I thank the heavens and ancestors for not falling the path of the barbarians.

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I mean what is China's military defence forum suppose to discuss besides USA? Martians? Ghosts? Why would you ignore the nuclear armed fascist hostile neighbour which is the elephant in the room. Think to your self, which country on China's borders can actually threaten China's security and has the motives to do so. Which country is designing and procuring weapons explicitly aimed towards a conflict with China? Which of China's neighbours has extended hostilities towards China since the founding of the PRC. Which of China's neighbours still have a unmarked land borders with China. In the long term, China only has one giant threat on its doorstep and its not Japan or Russia. Just because India is relative poor, doesn't mean they are automatically China's friend.

Wishing for an Indian collapse is a foolish strategy, the USSR collapsed due to internal and external factors. Historically, great empires which bordered China didn't collapse by themselves. China should be proactive and apply the same lesson.

Chevalier said:

Speaking for myself, it’s because the unscrupulous behaviour of Indians is incomprehensible to my worldview of common decency and self awareness. For instance, I would not be so shameless as to boast about things that were not true as Indians collectively do about India superpowah and have even been caught lying, nor would it ever occur to me to join in on a gang rape if I were to happen upon a woman being sexually assaulted and yet this is far too common an occurrence with Indians. In much the same way, any decent person would be shocked at the sociopathy of an Israeli Zionist, we would collectively be shocked at the sheer barbarity, dishonourable and cowardly behaviour of indians today. This kind of shameless sociopathy sticks with you as an evolutionary warning against cooperating against this band of people who would compromise the survival of your own clan. This is not unique amongst humans, even crows gossip and spread news about who is a cheapskate and they act accordingly, as richard Dawkins observed in his book “the selfish gene”.

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Yeah and? I do not find them at all that threatening, not that I am recommending to let our guard down when it comes to India, heck no. What I am asking is to put things in a proper context and perspective. All I am seeing from some the esteemed members of this forum is the unhinged level of diatribe against a country that's not close to China's comprehensive power. We already know the Indian propensity to exaggerate, to boast, and yes, lie without blinking but such is the current mindset of India or maybe in perpetuity. Again, so freaking what.

None of India's erstwhile neighbours like her very much or fond of India due to their inherent tendency to dominate and domineer their entire society as if India is acting like their know-it-all boss when its not even capable of running its own domain, let alone another country's. That's how much power it wield within its own region, and somehow some of us here are convince that we need to tackle India in a violent way and dramatic way to teach her a lesson in humility? and what guarantee that such wunderkind plan would pan out the way some of us think it would.

I much rather China engage India in the manner and context that's fit for her and its people. Let's give that country and people some degree of deference and respect, even if grudgingly.

For a country that's supposed to be so shitty, they still managed to outperform the countries in the Global South they are championing in Africa and elsewhere. I don't want India's entire digital ecosystem to be cemented forever with the West. China must be able to penetrate that market for strategic reasons and nothing else. Like a famous quote said: "let your friends close, but keep your enemies closer" which perfectly capture the strategy China must have with India.

coolgod said:

I mean what is China's military defence forum suppose to discuss besides USA? Martians? Ghosts? Why would you ignore the nuclear armed fascist hostile neighbour which is the elephant in the room. Think to your self, which country on China's borders can actually threaten China's security and has the motives to do so. Which country is designing and procuring weapons explicitly aimed towards a conflict with China? Which of China's neighbours has extended hostilities towards China since the founding of the PRC. Which of China's neighbours still have a unmarked land borders with China. In the long term, China only has one giant threat on its doorstep and its not Japan or Russia. Just because India is relative poor, doesn't mean they are automatically China's friend.

Wishing for an Indian collapse is a foolish strategy, the USSR collapsed due to internal and external factors. Historically, great empires which bordered China didn't collapse by themselves. China should be proactive and apply the same lesson.

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Did I advocate that we become friends with India? What I am suggesting is modus vivendi as much as possible and as long as possible. China/PLA is not going to demolish the already built infrastructures post Galwan clash in 2020 because doing so would be stupid and highly irresponsible considering the logistical advantage that Indian military have over the PLA in that area.

China's military/civilian infrastructures and military transfer of hardware and other advanced offensive and defensive equipment are constantly growing. In the event of the Taiwan reunification campaign, any ideas India may have about interfering will be met with overwhelming force that can and will wipe their entire force out. Given the proximity to the Chinese border, it is clear that such an Indian move would be used by the PRC/PLA as a justifiable reason to demolish India's misguided fantasy of having Tibet and taking back all the lands China gave India in the 1960s.

Chevalier said:

strange behaviour, did this diplomat receive bad news from the Ukraine front? Pressure from BRICS?

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Anglo acting like they are still have an empire and are relevant. Their "diplomats" have always been thugs in suits.

Bellum_Romanum said:

Did I advocate that we become friends with India? What I am suggesting is modus vivendi as much as possible and as long as possible. China/PLA is not going to demolish the already built infrastructures post Galwan clash in 2020 because doing so would be stupid and highly irresponsible considering the logistical advantage that Indian military have over the PLA in that area.

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I don't want to continue this conversation, but the territories China gave to India already contains at least two PLA outposts built post 2020. If they were just some random shitty frozen waste land without any strategic value whatsoever, why did China hold out on this core Indian demand for four years?