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Sardaukar20

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I've seen some discussions about China warming up to India. Here are my opinions about it.

I do agree that pursuing peace with India is ultimately a good thing. Wise leaders always strive for peaceful solutions first, and only resorting to conflict last. This latest Sino-India border deal is the responsible thing for Chinese leaders to do, as it reduces tensions on China's Western flank. Despite some compromises, China still did not relinquish it's claims to the disputed areas. However, this deal will not change India's position on China.

Some have argued that China should focus on the real enemy: USA, while India should be put aside, because they are not a threat. I disagree with this view. India is not a threat to China on its own, but not in the context of coordination with the other anti-China forces. India always has that tendency to backstab when it senses vulnerability. Most prominently, during China's 2020 Covid crisis. At that time, India went into self-hype overdrive, and also advanced into Aksai Chin. Prior to that, India and China had apparently mended ties following the 2017 Doklam confrontation. Xi invited Modi to Hangzhou, and Modi invited Xi to Chennai. Things looked cool between the two, but India still went ahead and claimed Aksai Chin as part of Ladakh, and provoked Galwan 2020. Yeah, there is a new border deal between China and India. Yeah Xi and Modi are shaking hands in Kazan right now. But have we seen all of this too before Galwan 2020?

Touch wood, if armed reunification with Taiwan, or a China-PH SCS skirmish breaks out, India could very well assist the US-led anti-China forces. It could assist the US in blocking the Malacca Strait, provide logistical support to the USN in the Indian Ocean, and potentially stir trouble in Xizang and China's Western periphery. Who is gonna argue that India is never gonna do it?

So yes, China should make deals with India, but it cannot be naive about it's nature. You're dealing with a snake. Yes, show to India a friendly face, but also keep a very big stick around. The PLA forces facing India needs to be strong and vigilant. They are gonna be needed to deter a backstabbing, or to punish one.
 

Index

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South Tibet was militarily indefensible since it is located in a valley on the Indian side. Supplies would've needed to go through the mountains and India had a path into the valley from their side but not China.

Askai Chin was held though.
This, without first castrating the whole Indian nation, you can't realistically hold south Tibet. It's too populated by ethnic Indians and indefensibly geographically. Occupying it with the PLA is going to cost China significantly in money and manpower alike.

One day China will return and exile the Indian settler colonialists, but for now, it's more important to focus on containing the USA and establishing global economic hegemony.

Defeating India comprehensively and dealing with all hindu settlers is not unfeasible, but will simply demand tons of energy and time.

I think a few decades later, India will be under more pressure due to climate change, water shortages etc. That's a more ideal time to strike.

Surely as China can spend more time widening the lead, benefitting from its premier tech and economy status, one day, we will again return to the ancestral lands described in the journey to the west.
 

iewgnem

Captain
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Genuine question, why did China "unilaterally withdraw/declare ceasefire" to end Sino-Indian war of 1962 and this shit still ongoing? If China "won" the Sino-Indian war, why is there still a dispute. Did China achieve all it's territorial claims during the war (ergo, why is it unresolved still)?
Look at Chinese and Indian industrial output or GDP in 1962, then look at today.
Winning without fighting is the ultimate victory, the greatest generals are those whom nobody remembers.
That's how you become the most successful civilization in human history.
 

pmc

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"Germany bets on India to reduce reliance on China
By Christian Kraemer
German cabinet heads to India for government consultations
Trip comes as Germany tries to reduce reliance on China
Major forum aims to foster more German-Indian business
Trade with India hit record high despite elusive trade deal"
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These Europeans are embarrassment. first MBS showed up to make sure Europe exist to serve Saudi interests. now this Scholz is endlessly running after Modi. and Modi is making sure this thing is in the news.
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India as a key partner in the Indo-Pacific: The German Government adopts Focus on India paper​


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Russian Submarine, Warships Converge on Indian Ocean​

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Overbom

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The India discussion is kinda funny tbh.

You are talking about Xi here who has an unparalleled strategic mind for who the enemy is and how to prepare to deal with it.

You think Xi has forgotten 2017, or even worse, 2020 India's backstab? You are overthinking way too much, if randoms in the internet here and in Weibo can think of these things why do you think the upper leadership, which has climbed through the ranks stepping on top of the political corpses of their opponents, hasn't thought about these? As I said, funny..

My advice for those worried about this deal: Keep calm and enjoy the ride
 
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