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Petrolicious88

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MortyandRick said:
It's in their interest to be strategically balance, to get the most from both sides. Vietnam is an independent country, unlike many European countries and japan and south Korea, which are de facto controlled by the US.

By your logic, why hasn't other counties fully aligned with the US policy? Like Brazil? Malaysia, Indonesia? Or even Turkey and Saudi Arabia (supposed US allies)?
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For now, strategic balance makes sense. But as a small country, you eventually have to align with somebody. Not so long ago, these smaller asian countries all aligned or were vassals of China.

Brazil is aligned with US, lol. They are a major Non-Nato ally. You knew that right?

Turkey is part of NATO. They been gun-ho about joining the EU for decades until the US staged a coup against Erdogan.

Saudi Arabia is a US ally. Most of their weapons systems are from US, troops are trained by US. They just want Chinese investments not security umbrella. Petro - Dollar since the 1970s - so they been a vassal for half century. Despite the talk of the end of Pedro-Dollar, they still sell vast majority of the oil in.....Dollars (as long as US is still willing to provide security guarantees).
 
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Petrolicious88 said:
For now, strategic balance makes sense. But as a small country, you eventually have to align with somebody. Not so long ago, these smaller asian countries all aligned or were vassals of China.

Brazil is aligned with US, lol. They are a major Non-Nato ally. You knew that right?

Turkey is part of NATO. They been gun-ho about joining the EU for decades until the US staged a coup against Erdogan.

Saudi Arabia is a US ally. Most of their weapons systems are from US, troops are trained by US. They just want Chinese investments not security umbrella. Petro - Dollar since the 1970s - so they been a vassal for half century. Despite the talk of the end of Pedro-Dollar, they still sell vast majority of the oil in.....Dollars (as long as US is still willing to provide security guarantees).
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The Brazilian example is a good one. Just south of the US, US aligned (plus a democracy to boot), but not totally aligned.
Does this sound similar?
 
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jiajia99

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tygyg1111 said:
Just a question - did you grow up in a western country or did you emigrate at a later age (e.g. late high school or university)?
I've found as long as you have a reasonably close level of cultural similarity, if you make yourself 'useful' to key people (as in makes things easier for them, not ass kissing) they will take a shine to you, regardless of background, including promotions, however that's just my experience.

The real glass wall is if they don't know how you think, or if the only 'you' they've seen is doing technical work without engaging with them on a near 'mates' level. Once they feel they can trust you, and if you're technically highly competent, they will come to you in private and ask you if you want to take on X role. This has come from people I've known to have a highly conservative and/or religious background.

In the political field, I wouldn't bother as you'll be under extreme scrutiny, however in industry, as long as you are reasonably politically savvy with the right people and competent then as an asian man you can still find yourself in high positions.
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Hmm, from experience in an structural engineering environment in where I am at (different in others I assume), I find being in a management role is a bit harder to get into for an Asian guy for obvious reasons but to be in a technical role (with enough experience) that are similarly high paying and necessary for actually earning the company upkeep and actually keeping the place going, I do notice that provided that you can pull your weight, it doesn’t quite matter what race you are, they will keep you and heck, they will even go as far as provide pay rises at times to prevent you from leaving if your earnings are high enough that you leaving would be a severe drop In revenue for the company (at least for me it seems when they keep on bringing up earning consistency as a strong point at company dinners where only my other Chinese colleague ever fits that description).

Competencies at the job as an engineer far is more important then ones political or racial orientation and provided their is little friction with management (I myself prefer not be get into arguments with anyone and would rather just get the job done to the best of my abilities with little bullshit), then as far as I know, their wouldn’t be any real issues in regards to continued employment. I guess in the financial world things are bound to be very different but in places of engineering of any kind, results are the end all and be all, and from experience, I almost never see an Indian or any other races that gravitate to management roles in a similar role to mine simply because they prefer easy roles where bullshitting to the top is easiest and providing actual results is none existent (heck I am positive that they know nothing of the basics for the most part with no desire to learn)

It still pisses me off however that being a Chinese for my father meant that he was past over for promotions into senior management despite decades of loyal hard working service. I have a feeling that the same will ultimately apply to myself if I try to do the same regrettably
 
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About 140 people were killed in a violent protest in Bangladesh. The protest was against the government's job quota systems that favours the descendants of military people who served during the Bangladeshi Secession War.

There were internet lockdowns and curfews by the Bangladeshi government. The controversial job quota thing was withdrawn, but the protesters vowed to continue protesting and have their own set of demands that includes Ministers resigning. Looks like the familiar three-letter agencies might be hijacking the protest. They would definitely be interested to overthrow the current Bangladeshi government, as it is perceived to be a little too friendly to China.
 
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About 140 people were killed in a violent protest in Bangladesh. The protest was against the government's job quota systems that favours the descendants of military people who served during the Bangladeshi Secession War.

There were internet lockdowns and curfews by the Bangladeshi government. The controversial job quota thing was withdrawn, but the protesters vowed to continue protesting and have their own set of demands that includes Ministers resigning. Looks like the familiar three-letter agencies might be hijacking the protest. They would definitely be interested to overthrow the current Bangladeshi government, as it is perceived to be a little too friendly to China.
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That's odd. I thought they were basically vassals of India. Or maybe they're getting too friendly with China which India doesn't want either.
 
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