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FairAndUnbiased

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This is simply not true. There were major world events due to technological differences. For example you had the collapse of Constantinople. It had walls which resisted incursions for hundreds of years. They were broken down with cannon fire.


Even when this was the case just because you had guns and cannon it does not mean they had similar levels of performance. Why is it that only after the Japanese copied the European arquebus that they had the Sengoku period? It is not like the Japanese didn't know what gunpowder or firearms were.


Actually Spain did so. They tried to control much of Europe using the riches they got from the Americas. This culminated in the Thirty Years War.
Byzantium had guns and cannon too. It was not anywhere near a big of a technological change as industrialization where mere decades of differences could separate victory from defeat.

Spain and Holy Roman Empire lost the 30 years war too.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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There's a certain aspect of Western culture that encourages and obsesses over the seeking of novelty, which still persists to this day as the US continues to spend far more money on basic research, even though applied research would have served its industries more. I don't find this same urge in Eastern cultures, and it's possible it has to do with significant differences in the foundational structure of these societies, where Eastern societies just didn't have a class comparable to the European entrepreneur.

By which I mean, China obviously did have merchants; and it did have bankers. But if you look at their maturity vis-a-vis Europe's during the 16th and 17th centuries, they strike you as being rather rudimentary. Commercial banking, financial instruments, and capital markets were much better developed in the West than they were in China, and that's still the case today. Yet private entrepreneurs were critical to the success of the Industrial Revolution in Great Britain - it was they who provided the impetus for inventors seeking upward mobility and who laid the foundations for such inventions via the patents system.

During the same period in China, the educated class competed to become imperial bureaucrats, poets, and artists; and invention was never given much encouragement except when the state found a particular need. Indeed, this still seems to be the case today as China continues to sponsor very targeted research serving strategic needs, rather than invest in an entrepreneurial sense. To this end, while the down side of excessive financialization is becoming obvious, I wonder if China might have too little financialization for the engine of innovation.
Not all western society, mostly American and Dutch tbh. Look at EU. They're all extremely small c conservative. Do not like change. Spain was first mover in the Americas yet fell behind late comers with no colonial plunder at all like Germany.

Britain wasn't powerful for their innovation alone - they were first mover on industrialization yet fell behind Germany and US because of how conservative they were. They wanted to basically be an old school empire with modern tech. They were powerful for being gigantic and conquering a ton.

It also comes as a double edged sword with instability, waste and leaving large swaths of the population behind. How much money has been spent in the US for basically no positive fundamental changes in the past 10 years? Compare to China.
 

tokenanalyst

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That ban is ultimately is a good thing for China because it mires the Pentagon in heaps of red tape (more than it already is in) that slows down procurement and drives up costs.
It disprove the national security bullshit argument because if Huawei was a real problem for them then the pentagon would had changed to even using morse code if was necessary, so this prove that the Huawei issue is all about the stooges in DC trying to kill a Chinese because US companies cannot compete.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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A massive dike breach has occured at Dongting Lake, Yueyang City, Hunan Province this afternoon, flooding vast swaths of fields and villages at lower elevation. They attempted to use trucks carrying sand and gravel to block the breach, however that didn't work.

【湖南一处洞庭湖大堤发生重大险情,地方正在处置险情和转移人员,卡车以“沉车裹头”方式堵缺口】
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Unfortunately, the breach has been growing in size (latest update puts the width of breach at more than 100 meters). According to reports, ~5000 residents living nearby have been evacuated.

Just now, the first PAP units have also arrived in the disaster area.

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FriedButter

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A massive dike breach has occured at Dongting Lake, Yueyang City, Hunan Province this afternoon, flooding vast swaths of plantation and villages at lower elevation. Unfortunately, the breach has been growing in size. The first PLA and PAP units have also arrived on scene.

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i am guessing that any repairs would have to wait until after the area is fully flooded and the water level equals out.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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i am guessing that any repairs would have to wait until after the area is fully flooded and the water level equals out.

According to reports, the first responders and PAP are pilling huge effort towards holding the 2nd line of defense around 2 kilometers downstream of the breach.

They have pretty much abandoned any efforts at blocking the breach at the original site.
 
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