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dingyibvs

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Well, many people’s worst fears were realized on Thursday, as President Biden had the most dismal and depressing performance in the history of presidential debates.

I had seen President Biden live in February. He did not look good. He was old and shuffling, his skin translucent. His delivery of remarks was uneven and performative – when he says something that is supposed to have emotion behind it but it seems like an old guy reading lines instead of genuine sentiment.

Still, I figured that his team had figured out a regimen to make him seem pumped up and energetic for 90 minutes – they seemed to have it pretty well managed for the State of the Union. I thought if they give him a week of rest and preparation Joe would probably be able to channel some of his vigor from his many debates of 2020, and he’d be genuinely fired up to debate Trump.

I was wrong. It was a doddering disaster.

One thing that was always in the back of my mind - a debate is a LOT harder than giving a speech off of a teleprompter. You have to have command of the material and some messages memorized. You have to project energy in response to your opponent and in some cases the moderators. Let’s say I had you memorize a 60-second message to camera. You’d have to be able to bust that out on command after 80 minutes of back and forth. It’s a lot of cognitive loading.

If someone asked me to give a good speech off of a teleprompter, I could do that with almost no notice. If someone asked me to do a great job at a televised debate it would take some runway. This was a much higher hurdle to clear than the State of the Union, and Joe Biden essentially faceplanted on the first lap.

So what happens now?

I’m clearly in the camp that Joe Biden should step aside and let the Democrats nominate someone else. A ticket of well-liked governors would be a much tougher foil for Trump than Joe and Kamala at this point. I got the hashtag #swapJoeout trending at one point.

The New York Times, the Atlantic, and even CNN have all piled on to make the same case. It’s been a remarkable shift. It’s tough to imagine a successful Democratic campaign that has lost the media to this degree.

But the Biden camp is digging in. The flagship Democrats – Obama, Harris, Newsom, Clyburn, Jeffries, Schumer – are circling the wagons, at least publicly. Donors are being managed and told to stay steady. Biden is campaigning away to try to demonstrate vitality. They have internalized the lesson – that has been true in the past – that if you hunker down you can weather any storm. Each passing day gives them more distance from the debate.

Still, behind the scenes some of the other candidates-in-waiting are staffing up and preparing.

Most debates don’t change a race fundamentally. This one is an exception – Americans saw firsthand that the President isn’t up to the job. He is running an unwinnable race. He is making the case that he is running to defend democracy, but then clinging to the office.

Joe Biden’s superpower has been that he’s a good man who will do right by the country. He is doing wrong by the country now. The question is whether anyone around him will have the courage and moral clarity to save him, and the rest of us, from himself.

If the debate made you wish for a new party in American politics, check out Forward – we are growing every day and got a lot of new recruits this week.

Andrew Yang
Co-Chair, Forward Party
Biden is not gonna win, but I don't see an alternative candidate. I think Newsome is a smart political animal, but his state is hijacked by ultraliberals that he has needed to cater to and that's resulted in some well-publicized national headlines in terms of homelessness and drug use in California. His own initiatives have been largely practical, but he'll for sure be associated with the failed policies of the ultraliberals and that'll scare the crap out of moderates as they should, very possibly even more than the ultraconservatives on Trump's side.
No, it doesn't. Elevated HGH in fasting (diminished insulin) conserves muscle mass.

It's okay if you don't know, but don't think you can get away with peddling misinformation, ignoring well-understood concepts even as they're laid bare in front of you.

Might I reiterate again the nonsense you posted? >> "excess calories are stored as fat; in caloric deficit, the body will burn muscle"... which ultimately begs the question: wtf is the point of storing calories in fat if you're just gonna burn muscle (non-fat tissue which include your vital organs)?


It hasn't. Refer to previous post where it's been explained, and in the video going into the technical details, which you've conveniently ignored, negating exactly this point you've typed.
Again, focusing on mechanism instead of results. You think you understand mechanisms, but you really don't. Instead you're peddling pseudo science that's not supported by evidence. I'm a practicing clinician and these are things I've looked into in depth. Let me assure you, these concepts are not as well understood as YouTubers may have you believe. There are mechanisms for the body to burn muscle along with fat, I'm purposefully not stating them because the focus is on the result which is that it does happen, not on the mechanism of why it happens because we do not have complete understanding of it.

Significant weight loss will lead to muscle loss, period. It's known to everyone who's ever dieted to lose weight. There are literally hundreds of studies that's shown to be able to cause weight loss, high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat, every combination imaginable, and they all demonstrate that caloric deficit is key.

Tell me, why does an elevated insulin state in Ozempic users lead to weight loss? The answer is as Dr. Fustig said, we don't know. We do know that people eat less on Ozempic, so this is yet another result that supports the calorie in calorie out theory. You support intermittent fasting, yet a study this year suggests an almost two-fold increase in cardiovascular death for those who eat between an 8 hour window compared to a 12-16 hour window. Why? Again, we don't know.

Let me repeat, these concepts are not as well understood as you think they are. There are many, many unknowns. What we need to focus on is the results. Caloric deficit gets results, it's been repeatedly, repeatedly shown to be the case, whether it's from dieting or GLP-1 agonists.
 

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It’s funny how Taiwan is so scared of China yet they do stuff like this. I wouldn't be surprised if its eventually revealed the ruling class of Taiwan were revealed to be plants.
Taiwanese are the ultimate example of the brain washed liberal Asian; they’re basically being played by Indian nationalists & don’t even realize it. At the same time, smart of India to exploit liberals & make use of its demographics power to increase its influence - can’t beat them? Replace them.
 

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Taiwanese are the ultimate example of the brain washed liberal Asian; they’re basically being played by Indian nationalists & don’t even realize it. At the same time, smart of India to exploit liberals & make use of its demographics power to increase its influence - can’t beat them? Replace them.
No, the Taiwanese knows exactly what they are doing, they are planting mines for China later just like the British did in HK.

People forget Taiwan is full of Hanjians, tens of thousands of Taiwanese volunteered to joined the japs and massacred Chinese and others during WWII. They were just as brutal as the Japanese, unfortunately they were never dealt with. When China reunites there are some old debts to settle, both in and outside China.


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The West drew first blood and now they're worried over losing the Chinese market from Chinese domestic firms...? Of course their rights over China they want the Chinese to honor despite how China never agreed to it.
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Taiwanese are the ultimate example of the brain washed liberal Asian; they’re basically being played by Indian nationalists & don’t even realize it. At the same time, smart of India to exploit liberals & make use of its demographics power to increase its influence - can’t beat them? Replace them.
why will Taiwan any different than Korea and Japan. i would think all those Indian students going to West will also get hired by East Asian firms.

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Taiwanese are the ultimate example of the brain washed liberal Asian; they’re basically being played by Indian nationalists & don’t even realize it. At the same time, smart of India to exploit liberals & make use of its demographics power to increase its influence - can’t beat them? Replace them.

For a brief second, I read replace them as “rape them” wouldn’t surprise me at all with them injuns.
 

BlackWindMnt

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No, it doesn't. Elevated HGH in fasting (diminished insulin) conserves muscle mass.

It's okay if you don't know, but don't think you can get away with peddling misinformation, ignoring well-understood concepts even as they're laid bare in front of you.

Might I reiterate again the nonsense you posted? >> "excess calories are stored as fat; in caloric deficit, the body will burn muscle"... which ultimately begs the question: wtf is the point of storing calories in fat if you're just gonna burn muscle (non-fat tissue which include your vital organs)?


It hasn't. Refer to previous post where it's been explained, and in the video going into the technical details, which you've conveniently ignored, negating exactly this point you've typed.
I have done multiple 4~6 days fast while still doing weight lifting. First 3 days you should be able to just train with normal weight and reps. its at day 4~5 that i drop to 85~90% of normal weights. I do that mostly to prevent injuries because you have been without food for 3 plus days so it becomes more a mental game than a physical game.

I am in the camp of calories in/out is the 90% of the result, your macro composition aka hormonal regulation will determine what the ratio of fat and muscle loss will be.
 
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