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coolgod

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I think you underestimated the Chinese leadership as being naive. Think about why the time limitation on the president was removed? That was to prepare for a turbulance era by reducing the uncertain of leadership transition. Why Xi Jinping began house cleaning immediately after becoming president. The house cleaning is not limited to government officials and military officers but also the media, internet and capitals, the whole society. All are preparing for big things without making a scene. Why did the Americans talked about 2025 "invasion of Taiwan" since Xi became president? Both sides were well aware that the showdown was coming soon and have been preparing for it since 2013. The happenings in Afghanistan and Ukraine are just two of many natural outcomes since 2013.

Going further back. Deng Xiaoping removed Zhao Ziyang and Hu Yaobang in an extraordinary manner. It is well known that the two were going the westernization way. How could a leadership like Deng and his successor having any kind of delusion of the west? Also remember the internal education video made by National Defence University about "peaceful evolution"/和平演变? Chinese leadership knows very well what the west is. Just for the sake of delaying the final showdown, they choose not to make it a drama. Even today they are still trying to keep their move to low key, but that isn't naive.
I think his point is valid, up til anchorage there were still a significant number of Chinese scholars, business leaders and probably CPC factions who believed Trump's anti-China policies were a fluke and would be rescinded by Biden.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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Completely unsurprising that Americans would allow everyone, including their supposed vassals allies to slowly die of covid than to lose their hegemony
Pork in the vaccine?

By summer 2020, the military’s propaganda campaign moved into new territory and darker messaging, ultimately drawing the attention of social media executives.

In regions beyond Southeast Asia, senior officers in the U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations across the Middle East and Central Asia, launched their own version of the COVID psyop, three former military officials told Reuters.

Although the Chinese vaccines were still months from release, controversy roiled the Muslim world over whether the vaccines contained pork gelatin and could be considered “haram,” or forbidden under Islamic law. Sinovac has said that the vaccine was “manufactured free of porcine materials.” Many Islamic religious authorities maintained that even if the vaccines did contain pork gelatin, they were still permissible since the treatments were being used to save human life.

The Pentagon campaign sought to intensify fears about injecting a pig derivative. As part of an internal investigation at X, the social media company used IP addresses and browser data to identify more than 150 phony accounts that were operated from Tampa by U.S. Central Command and its contractors, according to an internal X document reviewed by Reuters.
The secret U.S. military propaganda campaign intensified fears among Muslims that the China-made vaccine was “haram,” or forbidden. Public health experts say the messaging put lives at risk for geopolitical gain.

Translation from Russian

Muslim scientists from the Raza Academy in Mumbai reported that the Chinese coronavirus vaccine contains gelatin from pork and recommended against vaccination with the haram vaccine. China hides what exactly this drug is made of, which causes mistrust among Muslims.

“Can you trust China, which tries to hide that its vaccine contains pork gelatin and distributes it in Central Asia and other Muslim countries where many people consider such a drug haram?” read an April 2021 tweet sent from a military-controlled account identified by X.

The Pentagon also covertly spread its messages on Facebook and Instagram, alarming executives at parent company Meta who had long been tracking the military accounts, according to former military officials.

One military-created meme targeting Central Asia showed a pig made out of syringes, according to two people who viewed the image. Reuters found similar posts that traced back to U.S. Central Command. One shows a Chinese flag as a curtain separating Muslim women in hijabs and pigs stuck with vaccine syringes. In the center is a man with syringes; on his back is the word “China.” It targeted Central Asia, including Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, a country that distributed tens of millions of doses of China’s vaccines and participated in human trials. Translated into English, the X post reads: “China distributes a vaccine made of pork gelatin.”
The U.S. military’s secret propaganda sought to sow doubt about China’s efforts to help fight COVID in the Philippines, one of the hardest hit countries in Southeast Asia.

Translation from Tagalog

WE SHOULD NOT TRUST THOSE MED SUPPLIES BY CHINA REALLY. Everything is fake! Face mask, PPE, and test kits. There is a possibility that their vaccine is fake…

COVID came from China. What if their vaccines are dangerous??

It’s normal for Filipinos not to trust China, given the number of problems they gave us??

Facebook executives had first approached the Pentagon in the summer of 2020, warning the military that Facebook workers had easily identified the military’s phony accounts, according to three former U.S. officials and another person familiar with the matter. The government, Facebook argued, was violating Facebook’s policies by operating the bogus accounts and by spreading COVID misinformation.

The military argued that many of its fake accounts were being used for counterterrorism and asked Facebook not to take down the content, according to two people familiar with the exchange. The Pentagon pledged to stop spreading COVID-related propaganda, and some of the accounts continued to remain active on Facebook.

Nonetheless, the anti-vax campaign continued into 2021 as Biden took office.
Central Asian countries such as Turkmenistan represented an influence battleground between the United States and China, which arrived earlier than America did with vaccines for the pandemic-plagued country.

Translation from Russian

Turkmenistan residents report that the Chinese vaccine causes severe side effects. Those vaccinated with the Chinese drug experience severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Some called ambulance services and ended up in intensive care.

Angered that military officials had ignored their warning, Facebook officials arranged a Zoom meeting with Biden’s new National Security Council shortly after the inauguration, Reuters learned. The discussion quickly became tense.

“It was terrible,” said a senior administration official describing the reaction after learning of the campaign’s pig-related posts. “I was shocked. The administration was pro-vaccine and our concern was this could affect vaccine hesitancy, especially in developing countries.”

By spring 2021, the National Security Council ordered the military to stop all anti-vaccine messaging. “We were told we needed to be pro-vaccine, pro all vaccines,” said a former senior military officer who helped oversee the program. Even so, Reuters found some anti-vax posts that continued through April and other deceptive COVID-related messaging that extended into that summer. Reuters could not determine why the campaign didn’t end immediately with the NSC’s order. In response to questions from Reuters, the NSC declined to comment.

The senior Defense Department official said that those complaints led to an internal review in late 2021, which uncovered the anti-vaccine operation. The probe also turned up other social and political messaging that was “many, many leagues away” from any acceptable military objective. The official would not elaborate.

The review intensified the following year, the official said, after a group of academic researchers at Stanford University flagged some of the same accounts as pro-Western bots in a public report. The high-level Pentagon review was first reported by the Washington Post. which also reported that the military used fake social media accounts to counter China’s message that COVID came from the United States. But the Post report did not reveal that the program evolved into the anti-vax propaganda campaign uncovered by Reuters.

The senior defense official said the Pentagon has rescinded parts of Esper’s 2019 order that allowed military commanders to bypass the approval of U.S. ambassadors when waging psychological operations. The rules now mandate that military commanders work closely with U.S. diplomats in the country where they seek to have an impact. The policy also restricts psychological operations aimed at “broad population messaging,” such as those used to promote vaccine hesitancy during COVID.

The Pentagon’s audit concluded that the military’s primary contractor handling the campaign, General Dynamics IT, had employed sloppy tradecraft, taking inadequate steps to hide the origin of the fake accounts, said a person with direct knowledge of the review. The review also found that military leaders didn’t maintain enough control over its psyop contractors, the person said.

A spokesperson for General Dynamics IT declined to comment.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon’s clandestine propaganda efforts are set to continue. In an unclassified strategy document last year, top Pentagon generals wrote that the U.S. military could undermine adversaries such as China and Russia using “disinformation spread across social media, false narratives disguised as news, and similar subversive activities [to] weaken societal trust by undermining the foundations of government.”

And in February, the contractor that worked on the anti-vax campaign – General Dynamics IT – won a $493 million contract. Its mission: to continue providing clandestine influence services for the military.

By Chris Bing and Joel Schectman

Additional reporting: Maria Tsvetkova in New York, Karen Lema in Manila, James Pearson in London and Andrew Silver in Shanghai

Art direction: John Emerson

Photo editing: Jeremy Schultz

Edited by Blake Morrison
 

sndef888

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Completely unsurprising that Americans would allow everyone, including their supposed vassals allies to slowly die of covid than to lose their hegemony
It's times like this when I wish China had a better media/propaganda network

This could have become one of the largest stories of the world, greatly improving China's standing vs America's, if only China could get the message out to southeast asia, middle east and the rest of the global south, and continue running stories on it for months

But instead it's likely everyone is going to forget about it in 2 days
 

jiajia99

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I reckon he made those offers as sort of a last chance of sorts because he already knows that the west will reject any kind of proposals he makes. In a sense he would prefer that if he ultimately must make use of nukes on EU or US territory, he would at the very least make them when he has done everything he could to end the war with as soon as possible, at least to keep his Allies on side if nothing else.

By now, he should be well aware that negotiations with the west is impossible, not unless a real example is being made of someone and that the likes of Stoltenberg/Von de Layan cannot hide from their safe space any longer that ignorance is now an impossibility
 
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ansy1968

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It's times like this when I wish China had a better media/propaganda network

This could have become one of the largest stories of the world, greatly improving China's standing vs America's, if only China could get the message out to southeast asia, middle east and the rest of the global south, and continue running stories on it for months

But instead it's likely everyone is going to forget about it in 2 days
Well bro on the bright side more people realized the nefarious activity of the US gov't and we have to thanks Israel for it. It magnify Imperial America and its hegemonic tendency.
 

Chevalier

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Someone posted this article earlier but this was a legitimately evil move on behalf of the US. Completely unbelievable.
The U.S. and western political systems specifically select and breed for psychopathy and narcissism.
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Oh would you look at that.

Turns out the EU was actually demanding Chinese companies to hand over trade secrets, ingredients on battery production, and core technologies as part of their “investigation” of cheap Chinese EVs.
i am really puzzled why the west, in this case Western Europeans didn’t use their superior “Inequality of the Races” type thinking and use that master race generic IQ to develop better EVs such that their own ppl would want to buy? Everyone knows the white European peoples are superior, I know because the media made by white European peoples said so. They also say they have bigger penises than asians which in no way indicates that they are compensating for anything.
Forced tech transfer. Highly likely some secrets were leaked via bribery/threats/blackmail/etc.
we are fortunate then that patent laws exist in China as well as the EU.

Putin makes another peace offer but Zelensky rejected it.


Kharkov is probably next.
good to see the Russians doing a bit of Ghengis Khan in pitching a white tent first to indicate mercy contingent on surrender with subsequent refusals being met with a red tent and then a black tent indicating complete massacre and enslavement.
 

MortyandRick

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Oh would you look at that.

Turns out the EU was actually demanding Chinese companies to hand over trade secrets, ingredients on battery production, and core technologies as part of their “investigation” of cheap Chinese EVs.
So the fact that byd had less tariff increase, does that mean the cooperated and spilled their secrets? I certainly hope not
 

henrik

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Two years ago. I said in the COVID thread, that COVID is the biggest scam. The media lied to us to get vaccinated and even the workers in the hospitals lied about the death rate. Everything was about to disgrace China.
Would it be happened to another country. There won't be any lockdown or border closures.

Since the opening up, nobody are really talking about that anymore. Logically through the media, it must be everywhere and full of people in hospitals.

Japan is still keeping track of covid and their records show covid is still there.
 
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